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okay good so i'm here with friedman

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flying he just turned on recording so

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i'm going to do a proper

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introduction but since you went ahead

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and responded to that kind of deep

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personal question which i thought was

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really cool can i recap where we were at

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yeah absolutely because uh freeman and i

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were just talking

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that you know i hadn't really known a

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lot about his

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his work you know what he's published

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which is

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amazing and anyone can go check out but

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in particular

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i i especially didn't even know about

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his background and i was telling freeman

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that

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you know i just done this interview with

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the famous ufo guy

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whitley strieber who i think is amazing

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one thing i found out about whitley in

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that interview was that

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whitley didn't know it but at the time

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he was

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kind of getting into some of this very

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uh he was in mk ultra it was his dad put

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him in an mk ultra problem when he was

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nine years old

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and this is scary as [\h__\h] and it totally

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affected

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whitley's life forever and like his

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neighbor friend

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who who also went to the program where

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these kids were like

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locked in these faraday cages and

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tortured i mean this is true

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mk ultra [\h__\h] and he said you know the

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kid across the street from me

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he never recovered

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he was like locked in his house until he

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was like 50 years old you know it just

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barely you know is this reduced to kind

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of

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as we hear with so many people who are

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traumatized with that mind control stuff

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and this this folks is is whitley

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strieber who we all know

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so anyways back to framing here i'm

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talking to freeman that

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you know i didn't know much about his i

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didn't know anything about his

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background

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and then i'm reading or i'm listening to

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this

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really good interview he did on knox

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menta

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and lo and behold freeman reveals

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that from a very young age he's this

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gifted kid

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he's this space man which i thought was

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incredible you know what do you want to

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be

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that's really good kid

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no i want to be a space man i love that

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but anyways you're super interested in

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everything ufo space

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all this and then later in life your dad

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says

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oh yeah uh by the way i used to chase

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ufos for

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alan heineck as part of the blue book

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project

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on and on but that'll be a good

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introduction for

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folks on skeptico

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can that's an amazing amazing

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story for where you're coming at this

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what else can you fill in about that oh

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man you know it was crazy because

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it was when i went to college right and

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well you know thinking of whitley

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strieber and his uh experience i didn't

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really have an mk ultra experience but i

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was always put into special courses in

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school

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and when i asked my mom about that she

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had no knowledge of it whatsoever they

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used to stick me in this room

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with just a few other kids and we were

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the specials

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whatever and this is elementary school

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and they would set me in this room with

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just uh

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catalogs of note cards and

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there were just thousands of them and we

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were to read them

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and then take quizzes on them

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and i did this for you know i don't even

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know how long

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uh and i'm certain that so much data got

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put in my brain

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through that i really even believe that

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i learned

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friday the 13th was uh due to the

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knights templar

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back then like i don't know what they

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programmed in me right like there was

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just so many note cards so many facts

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and then you just take it all in and

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take the test

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hold up hold up freeman what the hell

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i mean i have never heard it you know so

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now you're a grown ass man

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you've never heard of that being you

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know

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a standard any kind of method ever used

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in school what do you think was going on

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yeah i don't know and when i asked mom

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she's like i don't know anything about

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that

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because one thing i really liked when i

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interviewed whitley he said

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you know i i i came out of that thing

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and my head was so scrambled but

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i wasn't even sure it really happened

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and he said i had to go and try it

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trace down other people who were with me

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at the time and say do you remember when

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we were nine years old and we went

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through this thing

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and that confirmation for him was like

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life-changing because it was like okay

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did you ever wonder if that was like

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real or like a dream or like how could

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that be i mean it just doesn't fit

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yeah i have and you know that's what

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brought it up with my mom

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and i yeah i would love to figure out

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who was in there with me

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and i don't even remember uh and

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and get confirmation of that as well and

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somebody else's experience and whether

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or not they remember it

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i mean we had one time like this is just

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an example of memory

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of um me and my nephew walking down the

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beach in florida

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near a submarine base and suddenly night

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turned to day and i'm looking around

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like it's daylight and i turn around

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just in time to see that glow

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disappear into the submarine base

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and i'm like wow that was crazy what was

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that you know and this was

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you know 30 years ago and

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so later i asked my nephew you know do

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night turned to day he had no relax

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recollection of it whatsoever

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like how can you not remember that that

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was you know the most bizarre

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instance other than seeing giant flying

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rectangles and flying v's because that's

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my life but

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uh yeah but then back to

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dad and in that whole scenario you know

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i i learned about my mom's history oh my

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god you know i had no idea

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uh she was married to like the grand

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potentate of kaiserslautern masonry was

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a billionaire

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and then my dad stole her from the

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worshipful master

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which then made him have to leave

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freemasonry because you can't steal

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another worshipful master's wife

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um and mom's story she was raised by a

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witch

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that was renowned healer that she would

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do spells and remove

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warts from cattle and stuff i don't know

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and so that was like mom's side of the

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story of running from the nazis because

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she grew up in

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in germany and uh had to

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be fled off to uh this witch in france

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and that was mom's story from uh raised

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by a witch and then

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given to the billionaire head of

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freemasonry and kaiserslautern and then

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uh marries my dad uh dad's history is a

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complete mystery to me whatsoever

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he never really spoke at all

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and then then i find out

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well then let's see so then i learn of

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freemasonry

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esotericism all of the magic and the

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while i'm in college i meet a guy who's

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heavily into aleister crowley now this

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is 1991

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right so nobody knew any of this stuff

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like we were like what's esoteric

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you know he's like well it means you

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don't know what it means

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and so we're like oh all right sure

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whatever dude you know

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so anyway but he's looking at all these

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showing us these pictures from mccrolly

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books and from mason books and stuff

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and suddenly i recognize the symbols

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that i'm seeing and i'm like wait a

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minute wait a minute i recognize this

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stuff it's in my dad's top drawer

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and he's like well your dad's a free

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mason and i'm like no

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you know you're talking about all this

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crazy magic stuff and

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no not my dad no and so i go home and i

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hey dad what's up i just learned about

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this free masonry thing

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and that's when he lays it on me well

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yeah yeah of course i was worshipping

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that because then he dropped the bomb

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blue book you know

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and i'm like wait wait wait flying

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saucers are reel

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and he's like yeah flying saucers are

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uh you know i was i was stationed on a

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on a south sea base with

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uh four radar dishes and it was my job

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to report whenever the flying saucers

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and i'm like my whole life i've known

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this i mean a whole life i've been

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looking at this and you never told me a

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thing

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i have a massive ufo experience me and a

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friend down on daytona beach this giant

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flying rectangles hovering out over the

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ocean

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and we're just pointing at it like

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dumbfounded can't say a word

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and then i i don't remember it leaving

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but i remember my finger

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moving when it followed the the craft or

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whatever this thing was it was like a

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giant

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window in space i couldn't even you know

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it had it was a rectangle you know like

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it doesn't fly

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i don't know it didn't make any sense

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right it wasn't

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metallic or anything it was a giant red

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uh glowing rectangle

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and so we witnessed this thing we're

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sitting there looking at it we're

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sitting on a lifeguard stand it's it's

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spring break

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there's tens of thousands of people

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behind us on the strip of daytona you

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know it's just

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massive party right but we didn't we

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weren't ready to go there it was about

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10 p.m we weren't ready to join in we

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wanted to go to the beach first and then

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you know go join in the festivities but

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it was 10 o'clock at night on the beach

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and then this giant rectangle's hovering

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over the ocean

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and we're pointing at it and then i i

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see my finger follow it away we jump

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down like oh my god what was that and we

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want to go tell

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everyone that we could possibly see so

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this is two years after i

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so i learned of dad in college in 91

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when i started

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and then in 93 when i graduated this is

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what happened

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um so we're we run over to the strip

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we're ready to just tell anyone and

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everyone oh my god you won't believe

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what we just saw

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we get to the strip which is only a

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block away from where we were

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and it's empty it's completely empty

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there's no one

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like where'd they all go we thought we

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were in a twilight zone we're freaking

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out like walking down the middle of the

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strip in daytona no cars no people no

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nothing what happened

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we thought we were the last people on

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the planet everybody had been abducted

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or we'd been moved into another

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dimension who knows

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it's just everybody was gone so we walk

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and we walk and

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and suddenly we see a group of people

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and we're like hey man

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what time is it and it was like 2 30

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three

319
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it was like 3 30 in the morning

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everybody had gone home

321
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so we had lost from 10 to 3

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just gone and then i didn't remember

323
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this and then this

324
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is also very strange the person that was

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with me

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uh he's ended up living in every state

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that i've lived in

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and i uh he lived in texas when i lived

329
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in texas lived in kansas when i lived in

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kansas he lives in south carolina now

331
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and we don't talk we haven't yeah like

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you know it's just one day in kansas i

333
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ran into him

334
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you know and i'm like wait and so i

335
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brought him home and was like

336
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you know just introducing him and he

337
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told the story to everyone which is

338
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always nice

339
00:11:55,190 --> 00:11:53,440
when you want to confirm a ufo story to

340
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people when somebody else brings it up

341
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and tells the story

342
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so um but so this guy um

343
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but but how does he process the five

344
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missing hours he claims he doesn't

345
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remember

346
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much and when he

347
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when i questioned him on it he said well

348
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do you remember seeing future orlando

349
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and this i didn't but i kind of do like

350
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i kind of think i remember but i'm not

351
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sure but

352
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what was weird is after that event i had

353
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always said that i was shown the future

354
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because i started predicting world

355
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events right after that

356
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uh like as if we were shown the

357
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apocalypse or something

358
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because from that moment i you know i

359
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predicted 911 i predicted w

360
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would be forced into office i predicted

361
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barack obama wouldn't have a birth

362
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certificate i predicted you know just

363
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over and over and over again i mean 911

364
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was the big one that one freaked

365
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everybody out there

366
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how'd you know how'd you know like i'm

367
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not sure i just put the pieces together

368
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you know it just seemed right

369
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uh because you you know the reason i was

370
00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:03,360
kind of poking at that i mean this is

371
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like

372
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at this point so standard in the ufo

373
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contact experience when there's two

374
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people

375
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and you know like sometimes they'll be

376
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even i don't know if you experience this

377
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with your friend but

378
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when it does come back for people

379
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there's almost

380
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kind of some resentment like hey why

381
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didn't you

382
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help me you know or or or what happened

383
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you know or

384
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this kind of denial don't ever bring

385
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that up it's interfering with my life

386
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kind of thing

387
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so it is cool that you're able to get

388
00:13:42,069 --> 00:13:39,199
your friend to confirm it

389
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but you guys didn't feel a need to kind

390
00:13:46,629 --> 00:13:43,360
of

391
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explore that or explore i mean did it

392
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really

393
00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:50,880
in terms of

394
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you know figuring out what that what

395
00:14:03,910 --> 00:13:59,750
uh not not as much because

396
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i was already a free being and

397
00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:07,279
uh so because you were like a surfer

398
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and uh right i was a total beach bum

399
00:14:14,389 --> 00:14:12,800
yeah and then i ended up into a van

400
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person

401
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so the moment i graduated college i just

402
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got in a van and i left

403
00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:21,199
and i traveled the country for the next

404
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decade

405
00:14:26,710 --> 00:14:25,279
yeah yeah but you're out there in

406
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daytona where they're all those freaking

407
00:14:30,310 --> 00:14:28,839
sharks i don't know how you guys surf

408
00:14:32,949 --> 00:14:30,320
them

409
00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:32,959
california we don't have sharks so once

410
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every 20 years

411
00:14:38,389 --> 00:14:37,040
you guys man it's like aren't you

412
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fighting them off every time you go out

413
00:14:40,870 --> 00:14:39,519
in the water do you still go out in the

414
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water

415
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no i uh i actually quit surfing uh

416
00:14:48,949 --> 00:14:45,680
hurricane david

417
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when uh i caught my first nine foot wave

418
00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:51,120
and did not know what to do and fell off

419
00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,760
of it

420
00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:53,760
i didn't it never occurred to me that

421
00:14:58,150 --> 00:14:55,600
you could fall off the wave

422
00:15:00,629 --> 00:14:58,160
like you know the waves in florida are

423
00:15:02,949 --> 00:15:00,639
like four feet high you know tops

424
00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:02,959
and this uh i decided to go surfing

425
00:15:07,430 --> 00:15:04,959
during hurricane david

426
00:15:08,150 --> 00:15:07,440
and i got on this wave and it just kept

427
00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:08,160
going up

428
00:15:12,069 --> 00:15:10,720
and up and up and up and i'd never

429
00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:12,079
experienced an actual

430
00:15:17,430 --> 00:15:15,360
curl or an actual wave and so i didn't

431
00:15:19,430 --> 00:15:17,440
know what to do and i literally fell off

432
00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:19,440
the face of it and so i'm like falling

433
00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:20,880
through the air

434
00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:22,720
like oh my god what just happened and

435
00:15:27,910 --> 00:15:25,040
then i hit the bottom of the ocean

436
00:15:30,069 --> 00:15:27,920
and then the wave came down on top of me

437
00:15:32,629 --> 00:15:30,079
it cracked my surfboard in half

438
00:15:34,389 --> 00:15:32,639
cached my leg open pummeled me across

439
00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:34,399
the bottom of the ocean floor for a

440
00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:35,360
while

441
00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:37,360
and finally i rose up and i never

442
00:15:42,069 --> 00:15:40,480
searched again

443
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:42,079
you know that's standard stuff out here

444
00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:44,320
and i am not a surfer

445
00:15:48,389 --> 00:15:46,160
i mean if ever anyone ever sees me on a

446
00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:48,399
surfboard they would confirm that but

447
00:15:54,389 --> 00:15:52,320
you know both my boys were were and are

448
00:15:55,990 --> 00:15:54,399
you know surfers and yeah i mean that's

449
00:15:57,910 --> 00:15:56,000
like that's standard

450
00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:57,920
stuff out here you know getting in the

451
00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:59,440
washing machine and how long could you

452
00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:00,240
hold your breath

453
00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:03,040
and all that stuff yeah i never was that

454
00:16:06,550 --> 00:16:04,240
much of a surfer

455
00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:06,560
i just happened to have my my nephews

456
00:16:09,189 --> 00:16:08,880
hand me down surfboards so i did it you

457
00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:09,199
know

458
00:16:12,790 --> 00:16:11,040
on occasion but yeah there were three of

459
00:16:15,509 --> 00:16:12,800
us living in a camaro

460
00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:15,519
with a surfboard so you would actually

461
00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:18,800
fight to sleep in the driver's seat

462
00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:20,240
because it's actually the most

463
00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:22,800
comfortable spot believe it or not

464
00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:25,920
in a camaro yeah three people living it

465
00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:34,230
so uh but you know to to add the final

466
00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:38,240
bit to this puzzle so in 2004

467
00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:40,880
i was given the access television show i

468
00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:42,959
started the freeman perspective

469
00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:44,800
you know this is before youtube and

470
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:46,800
google and all that

471
00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:49,279
and uh i'm actually in the studio right

472
00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:50,079
after alex

473
00:16:55,269 --> 00:16:53,120
jones so that was kind of exciting i got

474
00:16:59,430 --> 00:16:55,279
to see alex every week

475
00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:02,829
i i scheduled my dad as my first

476
00:17:07,270 --> 00:17:04,160
whistleblower

477
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:07,280
uh interview wow great well yeah it

478
00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:08,079
would have been

479
00:17:14,309 --> 00:17:11,360
except for he died that day

480
00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:14,319
uh very strange no one expected it was

481
00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:17,120
not anticipated didn't know

482
00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:20,959
uh he simply did not wake up on the day

483
00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:23,520
that he was supposed to do the interview

484
00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,600
now i was in texas and was gonna fly to

485
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:27,360
florida that day

486
00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:30,559
to interview my dad and he

487
00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:34,640
i got word you know don't come and

488
00:17:39,990 --> 00:17:37,919
uh so that was rather shocking and

489
00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:40,000
once i looked into my dad's history a

490
00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:42,000
little more now if there was ever a

491
00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:44,960
potential mk ultra or abuse victim you

492
00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:46,559
know it was him

493
00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:49,200
and all of the weird stuff i mean he was

494
00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:49,679
on

495
00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:53,760
killer submarine

496
00:17:57,270 --> 00:17:55,760
jimmy wrote my dad when he became

497
00:18:00,230 --> 00:17:57,280
president

498
00:18:03,029 --> 00:18:00,240
uh you know there were a lot of weird

499
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:03,039
weird connections that were in dad's

500
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:04,960
i've got some of the weirdest masonic

501
00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:06,960
documents from like iceland

502
00:18:12,310 --> 00:18:10,480
and stuff for him i have his supreme

503
00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:12,320
council

504
00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:15,840
you know the 33rd degree stuff

505
00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:18,240
and you have just also in your personal

506
00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:20,160
history

507
00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:22,240
going to north dakota working on the

508
00:18:26,549 --> 00:18:23,280
nukes

509
00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:26,559
again not you

510
00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:29,520
but your dad and again you know one of

511
00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:30,720
the things i thought was interesting

512
00:18:33,830 --> 00:18:31,600
about that

513
00:18:36,470 --> 00:18:33,840
and i really want to get into this if

514
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:36,480
you're comfortable with it is

515
00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:38,160
because it's something we all go through

516
00:18:43,909 --> 00:18:40,720
you know we become adults

517
00:18:45,909 --> 00:18:43,919
and we unpack all that stuff

518
00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:45,919
and we see it differently because we are

519
00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:47,679
actually able to walk

520
00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:50,400
in your in that person's shoes you know

521
00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:52,080
and i can just imagine you know

522
00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:55,679
you going through that of your dad being

523
00:18:58,710 --> 00:18:56,160
told

524
00:19:00,390 --> 00:18:58,720
he's got to go to north dakota you know

525
00:19:02,470 --> 00:19:00,400
what is that all about

526
00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:02,480
after everything he's done and you know

527
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:04,720
that your dad's relationship with his

528
00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:06,880
with your mom you know and that whole

529
00:19:11,029 --> 00:19:09,120
thing i mean

530
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:11,039
as you start putting those pieces

531
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:12,960
together

532
00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:14,640
how do you how does that you know where

533
00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:22,710
just leaves me confused

534
00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:25,039
uh you know what what i found really

535
00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:27,360
intriguing is while i've done this and

536
00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:29,360
brought these things to light

537
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:31,760
uh is that those that are really

538
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:34,000
interested in what i'm saying

539
00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:37,039
find out that their family's involved

540
00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:39,200
so one day we're at thanksgiving dinner

541
00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:41,120
at my roommate's house

542
00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:44,640
and i just interviewed uh tex mars on

543
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:46,480
uh hand signs and gestures of the

544
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:48,320
illuminati

545
00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:52,480
and uh so i brought it up at

546
00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:54,000
thanksgiving dinner which you know

547
00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:54,640
wouldn't be

548
00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:56,559
something normally i would do but i just

549
00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:59,440
finished the interview and i was excited

550
00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:01,280
well lo and behold i opened a can of

551
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:03,760
worms it turns out my friend's dad was

552
00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:06,159
all involved in chasing flying saucers

553
00:20:12,149 --> 00:20:08,720
and project

554
00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,159
shoot i can't remember star or something

555
00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:14,400
either way all of a sudden his dad just

556
00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:16,000
starts going off

557
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:18,080
at thanksgiving dinner and i totally

558
00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:20,400
destroyed thanksgiving dinner because

559
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:24,159
and and my my roommate did had no idea

560
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:26,240
that his dad was into all of this stuff

561
00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:28,000
and but i opened the door

562
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:30,000
and his dad just started blurting it all

563
00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:32,400
out brought us back into his secret lab

564
00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:34,000
where he had all of the data

565
00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:37,440
and stuff and like my friend had no idea

566
00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:40,720
so uh it it's really

567
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:43,600
like it it's to me speaks heavily of

568
00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:44,960
genetic memory

569
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:48,320
yeah yeah well in yeah

570
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:50,080
well on a couple of different levels

571
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:51,600
right i mean

572
00:20:58,549 --> 00:20:54,880
one is the kind of

573
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:58,559
literally genetic bloodline

574
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,440
alien kind of stuff but the other is

575
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:04,000
just kind of

576
00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:07,200
kind of a genetic memory in in a

577
00:21:10,710 --> 00:21:09,360
not a literal sense but just kind of

578
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:10,720
you're in that soup

579
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:12,880
and i think sometimes as kids you're

580
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:14,480
picking up little bits

581
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:17,600
and pieces of conversations but also

582
00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:18,799
just picking up

583
00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:21,039
energy and feeling and emotions and

584
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:21,840
stuff

585
00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:24,799
that you know you're somehow processing

586
00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:26,799
again relating it back to

587
00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:29,679
to whitley you know he doesn't know his

588
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:30,159
dad

589
00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:33,200
is in you know military intelligence

590
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:35,200
his mom is in military intelligence too

591
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:36,640
kind of same as yours and you know the

592
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:37,760
other interesting thing i was just going

593
00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:39,520
to throw out there just kind of random

594
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:42,159
thoughts but that's okay if you ever

595
00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:42,880
look into

596
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:45,679
anyone ever looks into uh ted kaczynski

597
00:21:48,149 --> 00:21:46,640
and a lot of people have kind of

598
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:48,159
reported on this it's not like i'm

599
00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:49,840
breaking anything here

600
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:51,679
but again you know and he's the

601
00:21:56,830 --> 00:21:53,039
unabomber right

602
00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:56,840
and you're connor what's that john

603
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:58,240
connor who's

604
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:01,039
who's john connor john connor was the uh

605
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:03,760
the time traveler that tried to destroy

606
00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:06,799
uh skynet yeah yeah yeah okay

607
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:10,640
but uh so not so let me go a different

608
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:11,600
place

609
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:14,720
ted kaczynski he's a freshman at harvard

610
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:16,960
do you remember this part of his his

611
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:18,320
biography this is like true

612
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,280
this is like documented he's he goes

613
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:23,200
into this class

614
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:26,960
and uh he just starts as a freshman

615
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:28,880
i don't care if you're at harvard or if

616
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:30,320
you're at savannah state

617
00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:32,720
i mean a freshman in college you're like

618
00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:34,159
your most vulnerable

619
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:35,919
time in your life you know you've left

620
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:37,600
home and stuff like that

621
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:40,480
suddenly kunzinski is in the middle of

622
00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:41,440
this

623
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:44,159
experiment the whole class is an

624
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:45,280
experiment

625
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:48,000
of whether you can [\h__\h] destroy

626
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,039
somebody

627
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:51,520
i mean so they just start they just

628
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:52,480
start

629
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:54,880
kind of ripping him up really really bad

630
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:55,840
and telling him you know

631
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:58,080
how stupid he is and you know how he's

632
00:23:02,549 --> 00:22:59,120
just just

633
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:02,559
totally destroy the kid and he goes back

634
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:04,960
and everyone in his family says he's a

635
00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:06,240
changed person

636
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:08,960
after this and this isn't like you know

637
00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:09,679
they put

638
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:12,159
uh electrodes on his head or anything

639
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:13,520
they did it just

640
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:16,799
with social conditioning but the frickin

641
00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:19,120
professor who needs to be you know kind

642
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:20,720
of hung by his thumbs

643
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:23,760
or worse was working for mk

644
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:26,080
ultra it was just a little side project

645
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,799
like oh

646
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,480
you know along with all the other [\h__\h]

647
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,799
we're doing let's see if we can just

648
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:32,960
take young impressionable kids and just

649
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:34,640
kind of crush them

650
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:37,120
socially and what effect that will have

651
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:38,640
and we don't have to draw a straight

652
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:40,080
line and say that's why the

653
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:42,240
guy became the unabomber that's not my

654
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:43,200
point

655
00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:47,600
put together and i don't have that

656
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,840
history i really don't i can't i can't

657
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,520
front say that i wouldn't want to you

658
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:53,520
know i'm glad i don't have that history

659
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:56,880
but when we try and relate to like your

660
00:24:02,630 --> 00:23:58,080
story

661
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:02,640
i think we got to be a lot more open to

662
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,679
all the crazy [\h__\h] that went on and

663
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,600
all the different ways they they did

664
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:10,799
this do you have any

665
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,159
any thoughts on that and and

666
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:16,480
and how it might relate to because again

667
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,000
i can't get past this

668
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:20,480
thing of the school and the cards and

669
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:21,120
the

670
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:23,679
is was this in uh north carolina or

671
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:24,720
south carolina or

672
00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:27,440
no in florida in florida it's close to a

673
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:28,880
military base

674
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:33,360
dude

675
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:36,799
i don't know i mean that just sounds so

676
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:39,840
freaking strange yeah we had the uh

677
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,559
nuclear naval base right there

678
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:46,559
so every friday we got to listen to the

679
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:47,919
canons go off for

680
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:51,120
their ceremony because you know you you

681
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:51,440
said

682
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:54,480
genetic you know so if

683
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:57,679
genetic programming so if we just treat

684
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:58,799
that metaphorically

685
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:00,880
you know so your dad is going through

686
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:02,799
this [\h__\h]

687
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:05,039
how open is he when someone goes and

688
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:06,240
says hey you know

689
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:08,000
we got this kind of thing and you know

690
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,760
it isn't going to hurt your kid but

691
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:11,360
you know let's see what happens we'll

692
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:12,720
put him in this room and see if he can

693
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:13,600
record

694
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:16,960
brain right

695
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,400
right yeah i mean as far as i know dad

696
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:22,480
wasn't involved in my life at all but

697
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:26,799
who knows like he was a non-factor he

698
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:29,520
never spoke

699
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:32,640
uh i i finally you know just gave him

700
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:35,039
this sort of acceptance to say that his

701
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,120
entire life was top secret

702
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:39,360
so what did he have to talk about you

703
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,159
know other than his war stories

704
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:45,600
uh but speaking it's interesting that

705
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:46,320
you say

706
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:49,600
that he never talked to right yeah

707
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:52,720
because then what is your experience

708
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:55,919
you know growing up and in uh grammar

709
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:57,200
school and stuff

710
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:59,120
like didn't you say you like hardly ever

711
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:00,960
spoke unless you know that's true

712
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:03,840
i didn't speak either yeah no i didn't

713
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:04,880
speak until the

714
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,000
seventh grade like i mean not i was

715
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:10,960
mute or anything but in school yeah i

716
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,320
never said a word

717
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:14,080
no we all know that kid we all know that

718
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:16,400
kid who's just like you know

719
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:20,159
trying to be invisible you know yeah

720
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:22,880
yeah i mean i it wasn't like you know a

721
00:26:27,990 --> 00:26:24,320
conscious thing

722
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,909
you know i would pee in my pants before

723
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,919
i could get up the courage to ask go to

724
00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:33,200
the bathroom

725
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,919
yeah yeah yeah right that was crazy [\h__\h]

726
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:39,440
no but you know what i don't want to say

727
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:40,799
that because then that dismisses the

728
00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:41,360
whole thing

729
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:42,799
i think what we're trying to do what

730
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:45,279
you're trying to do on your show

731
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:49,919
is kind of just continue to poke around

732
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:52,559
at all these things and just see what

733
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,440
falls out

734
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:55,600
so i'm glad we went down this whole

735
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,799
thing because

736
00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:58,799
until you start in in particular until

737
00:27:01,190 --> 00:27:00,799
you start comparing those experiences

738
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:01,200
with

739
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:04,400
other people's experiences

740
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,600
i mean we can't even begin to

741
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:09,520
get a handle on that isn't isn't that

742
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:11,360
what i mean i've listened to

743
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,480
some of your interviews i'm gonna listen

744
00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:14,799
to your interview with kathy o'brien

745
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:18,399
and you're like you you can hold space

746
00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:21,679
for kathy o'brien even though you didn't

747
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:23,600
go through that kind of

748
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:26,640
you know sexual abuse

749
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,320
and manipulation and satanic crazy crap

750
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:32,640
but you can hold space in a way because

751
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:34,880
of the experience you went through

752
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:37,120
and it sounds different on your show

753
00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:39,520
than it does on other people's shows

754
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:41,840
absolutely and you know i consider kathy

755
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:43,919
a close friend now which is amazing to

756
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,399
me

757
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:46,799
and right after kathy left mary sean

758
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:48,320
young stopped by

759
00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:50,000
so i was feeling pretty king of the

760
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:52,399
castle at that point

761
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,240
because she's also a good friend and i

762
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,080
just finished speaking with sean stone

763
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,159
and mary sean young had held

764
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:00,320
sean stone as a baby she's like yeah i

765
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:02,640
was like holding a bag of bowling balls

766
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:05,679
uh in wall street the movie so i had

767
00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:07,360
all this cross connection going on

768
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,279
because i just talked with sean stone

769
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,120
and kathy o'brien and then mary sean

770
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,360
young shows up at my house you know

771
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:15,520
and i'm like well this is just too much

772
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:17,279
i can't believe where i'm at in life

773
00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:18,480
right now

774
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:22,399
uh this is but yeah i mean i was the one

775
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:24,000
who

776
00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:27,600
unveiled the idea of high profile

777
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:28,960
rituals

778
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:31,200
and then the internet just took it right

779
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,240
like

780
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:34,159
i was the first person to come on

781
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:35,440
television and slap

782
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:38,399
satan in the face and say here is some

783
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:38,960
live

784
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:43,360
real time mk ultra uh going on right now

785
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:45,919
and that was my report on anna nicole

786
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,080
brittany and mind control

787
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:50,880
and i had studied mind control mk ultra

788
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:53,120
and all of these techniques so deeply

789
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:53,520
that

790
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,480
i was traumatized so i was freaking out

791
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,799
i even asked red ice to remove the

792
00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:00,720
second half of my interview because i

793
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:02,720
scared myself so much with what i had

794
00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:03,679
revealed

795
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:06,000
and no one had talked about high profile

796
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:07,679
rituals in hollywood

797
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:11,279
and and politics until me and i brought

798
00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:12,320
that to the surface

799
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:14,399
along with the corporate logos and the

800
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:15,919
secret signs

801
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:18,399
and then that just exploded across the

802
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:19,279
web

803
00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:22,720
and no one no one realized that it was

804
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,360
me

805
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:25,360
that started that whole conversation

806
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,159
like i was quickly forgotten

807
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:30,159
that it was me that taught david ike

808
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:32,720
about illuminati corporate logos and it

809
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:34,640
was me that taught the world about

810
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:37,039
the high profile rituals because mine

811
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:39,600
started with y2k

812
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:41,360
and i've been talking about that since

813
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:42,960
then i mean

814
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:45,279
and that was the moment actually then

815
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:46,080
that's that's

816
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:48,559
freaking amazing that's amazing and i i

817
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,720
i feel really sure without

818
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:53,039
i haven't looked into that but i just

819
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:54,480
have a gut sense that you're totally

820
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,960
right

821
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,120
and especially david ike i love david

822
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:58,880
ike but all his

823
00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:00,640
virtually all his i mean he has a direct

824
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:01,919
experience which

825
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:04,960
matters you know but i i he borrows

826
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:06,880
a lot of stuff and that's okay you know

827
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:08,799
it's like stealing jokes i don't think

828
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:09,760
that's particularly

829
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:12,080
bad you know but you should reference

830
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:13,279
people a little right

831
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:16,799
but anyways tell me y2k

832
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:19,760
i don't remember the significance of

833
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:22,640
that in terms of a symbol or a sign

834
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:25,279
yeah see that was when it all began for

835
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:26,320
me to click

836
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,600
because uh let's see so i was working

837
00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:31,679
and going to kansas university at this

838
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:32,559
point

839
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:35,600
in 1999 i was

840
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:37,760
i was actually the pizza hut guy at

841
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,440
kansas university

842
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:41,679
and i was feeding the lawyers and the

843
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:42,880
engineers

844
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:44,559
and so i would bring in all this

845
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:46,880
documentation and stuff you know like

846
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:47,360
harp

847
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:49,360
and stuff and they would be like oh they

848
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:50,720
can just say whatever they want on the

849
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,760
internet

850
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:54,320
and you know then y2k started coming

851
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:54,799
around

852
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:57,039
and i was bringing them documents from

853
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,559
fema and the dod

854
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,880
that said prepare for three days and

855
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:02,640
everybody's like oh you know man

856
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:03,840
you can't believe what you read on the

857
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:05,919
internet and i'm like it says

858
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:07,760
gov this is your government telling you

859
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:09,200
to prepare for three days i

860
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:11,039
you know oh you you just go back to your

861
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:13,519
bunker you know as if i was panicking

862
00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:15,200
i'm not panicking i'm just letting you

863
00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:16,240
know that

864
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,159
this is your government telling you to

865
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:20,559
prepare uh i honestly don't believe in

866
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:20,880
the

867
00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:23,120
y2k meltdown it wouldn't make any sense

868
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:24,360
they've known about this since

869
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:26,960
1974. you know it's like if it does

870
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:28,480
happen it was planned

871
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:31,679
so um you know that was

872
00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:34,320
when when the y2k ritual happened i

873
00:31:37,269 --> 00:31:34,960
actually

874
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:37,279
quit the world at that moment so since

875
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:38,960
1999 until

876
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:42,320
2021 i have not had a legitimate job

877
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,240
i quit the world all together when i

878
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:46,480
realized that nothing was real

879
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,399
nothing was as we thought so for y2k

880
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,559
they did a massive glory ritual to

881
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:54,480
lucifer across the entire

882
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:56,960
planet so it started with this little

883
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,919
island

884
00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:59,600
i think again in the south seas i'm not

885
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:02,080
sure but the island adopted uh daylight

886
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:03,440
savings time

887
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:05,120
uh so that they could be the first one

888
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:06,799
to hit y2k

889
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,440
and they had them in their straw grass

890
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:11,120
skirts and stuff while doing a hula

891
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,000
dance or whatever

892
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:15,120
it was any while uh and then that ritual

893
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:16,320
moved over

894
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:19,519
so for examples uh the ones that come to

895
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:20,640
mind right away well

896
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:23,279
the igniting of the phallus in paris the

897
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:24,320
the eiffel tower

898
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:27,840
masonic uh construction uh then they

899
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:29,200
built the

900
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:32,000
millennial dome there in london next to

901
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:32,720
big ben

902
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:35,519
which uh complemented the male female

903
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:37,039
phallus

904
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:40,000
symbolism meanwhile also inserting the

905
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:40,559
eye

906
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:43,840
the giant ferris wheel uh and then they

907
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:45,200
burnt the river st

908
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:48,399
thames to the speed of the sun uh with

909
00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:49,679
fireworks

910
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:53,120
so that was like the river styx and then

911
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:56,480
uh it came over to america and bill

912
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,480
clinton was standing there saying our

913
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:00,320
children are ready

914
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:03,840
uh it is a rising sun and then they made

915
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:05,600
a light so bright behind

916
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:07,519
i think it's the lincoln memorial i'm

917
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:09,120
not exactly sure but they made a light

918
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:10,720
so bright like i was

919
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:13,760
witnessing in and at the beach with with

920
00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:14,880
my nephew

921
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,840
uh that it lit up as if the sun was

922
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,760
rising in the west

923
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:22,000
and then these were all symbols of horus

924
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:24,399
oh well of course i left out the most

925
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:25,519
important was the

926
00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:28,159
the rumors that the grateful dead would

927
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,279
be playing at the

928
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:31,440
the pyramids and stuff or pink floyd i

929
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:33,039
don't remember i think they would say in

930
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:34,640
the grateful dead but either way i knew

931
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:34,960
that

932
00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:39,120
jarre was going to be playing the 12

933
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:40,640
dreams of the sun

934
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,320
which again goes back to the solar

935
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:43,679
symbolism

936
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:47,039
and then they had anubis a multitude of

937
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:48,320
a newbie

938
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:50,880
standing there in black men in black

939
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,519
suits holding torches

940
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,760
uh as they announced the new year and

941
00:34:02,789 --> 00:33:57,679
they had all of the symbolism of

942
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:04,789
and they were supposed to cap the great

943
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,799
pyramid with gold

944
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:08,800
so when people were talking to me about

945
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:11,760
y2k then the lock or the potential of

946
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,359
you know the computer meltdown i would

947
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:15,200
say but no they're capping the grey

948
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,440
pyramid with gold

949
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:19,520
uh and they were like what do you mean

950
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:21,280
by that and i'm like dude i know you

951
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:22,560
know they're they're

952
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:25,040
it's it's the completion of the the new

953
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:26,399
world order you know they're gonna cap

954
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:27,760
the great pyramid

955
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:29,599
well i don't get it you know nobody was

956
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:31,440
onto this stuff yet

957
00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:35,440
and uh then the weirdest thing happens

958
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:37,359
and i followed this through enterprise

959
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:39,440
mission with richard hoagland as he was

960
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:40,720
covering it live

961
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:43,359
now back in 99 you had to just read

962
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:44,079
stuff

963
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:46,960
you know what i mean like and and so i'm

964
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:48,159
reading all of this stuff

965
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:51,839
as it's happening and um

966
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:53,599
hey quick pause before you get into

967
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:55,359
hoagland because i want you to remind

968
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:58,240
people who hoaglan is because he's kind

969
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,680
of falling off the

970
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:01,520
radar but he was a super important guy

971
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:03,760
back there and the other thing that i

972
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:04,640
wanted to

973
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:07,119
clarify so freeman are you kind of

974
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:07,760
saying

975
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:10,800
that the computer meltdown

976
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:13,599
your atm card won't work was kind of a

977
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,320
head fake

978
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,960
to kind of distract or is that what

979
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:18,000
you're saying or

980
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:20,079
what yeah honestly at the time i didn't

981
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,119
have enough

982
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:24,000
knowledge to really sort out why they

983
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:25,599
would put such a thing out

984
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:28,480
i wasn't thinking of such things at that

985
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:29,119
time

986
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,160
but i had already done enough research

987
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:33,839
on it to know that this was something

988
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:36,720
they had known about for 20 years

989
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:40,240
and that i just knew there was no way

990
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:42,240
that they would let the credit system in

991
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,440
the money system fall

992
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:48,079
and oh well you know what it did do was

993
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:48,720
that they

994
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:51,920
they charge ten dollars per line

995
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,599
to repair it so if you take just the

996
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:57,119
department of defense

997
00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:58,800
just a portion of the department of

998
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:01,920
defense had uh 500 million

999
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,839
lines of code just for one department

1000
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,520
inside of the department of defense that

1001
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:07,359
was one that i had followed

1002
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:10,800
500 million lines of code at 10 a line

1003
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:14,880
you know they made billions off of y2k

1004
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:18,000
okay i mean that's pretty right i'm

1005
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:18,960
always a little bit

1006
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:21,280
leery of the there's always a financial

1007
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:22,800
play in there

1008
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:24,640
but what about from that kind of higher

1009
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,680
social engineering kind of thing

1010
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:30,000
again is i'm just asking i don't know i

1011
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:32,079
don't have no opinion this is like

1012
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:33,680
i know half the story but you're adding

1013
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,119
so much to it

1014
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,040
is it is it kind of a head fake get

1015
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:39,359
everyone thinking it's one thing so

1016
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:41,680
there's less attention paid to what

1017
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:43,280
we're really doing kind of thing

1018
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:45,920
or i guess that would be my thought now

1019
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:47,359
yeah yeah everyone's breathing a sigh of

1020
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:48,960
release

1021
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,880
everything didn't crash so you know

1022
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:52,480
you're just kind of

1023
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:54,560
numb to the fact of what's really going

1024
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:56,560
on from a ritual basis

1025
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:59,599
right yeah yeah that was that was my

1026
00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:00,480
later thought

1027
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:02,560
uh but yeah at the time i didn't have

1028
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:04,160
enough knowledge to really even

1029
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,520
try and understand that

1030
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:09,280
okay so then so then hoagland what's the

1031
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:10,800
connection with hoaglan and remind

1032
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:11,920
people

1033
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:13,760
about it okay so richard holglin was the

1034
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:16,000
one who came out with the face on mars

1035
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:20,160
uh cydonia and the pyramids on mars

1036
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,359
uh mainstream guy right mainstream

1037
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:25,839
i think it was like on cbs you know he'd

1038
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:27,119
be like the science guy

1039
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,440
on cbs news occasionally either if i got

1040
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:30,960
it wrong it was like abs it was one of

1041
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:31,760
them

1042
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:33,920
but and then he started doing this kind

1043
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:35,280
of

1044
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:37,359
stuff that was much more fringy too

1045
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:38,560
right right

1046
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:40,640
and this i i believe what i'm talking

1047
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:44,560
about now with y2k predates all of that

1048
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:47,359
if i remember correctly it predates the

1049
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,119
cydonia stuff because

1050
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,920
uh he was he was investigating harp

1051
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:53,440
quite a bit

1052
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:56,720
and um but the the story that

1053
00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:59,599
caught me was on the capping of the

1054
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:01,599
great pyramid with gold

1055
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:05,599
so there there is a if anyone can find

1056
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:06,960
it if there's a hoarder

1057
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:09,680
out there somewhere because usa today is

1058
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:10,079
not

1059
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:13,200
databased the the newspaper usa today

1060
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:15,280
has never been databased like you can't

1061
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:17,680
go and find microfiche in the in the

1062
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:19,359
library or anything

1063
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:22,720
ever they never did right they were just

1064
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:24,640
a newspaper that came out and you you

1065
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:25,040
just

1066
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,200
they were not databased right and it's

1067
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,599
very masonic newspaper usa today so if

1068
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:31,440
you ever want the mason perspective then

1069
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:32,880
that's where you go

1070
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:36,480
um so the headline for

1071
00:38:41,390 --> 00:38:40,160
uh y2k uh well actually it was december

1072
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:41,400
18th

1073
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:45,040
1999 so if you have a stack of usa today

1074
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:48,960
somewhere from 1999 lying around please

1075
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:50,640
look for this for me because i've been

1076
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,400
trying to find it ever since

1077
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:54,240
i wish i'd just picked up a copy that

1078
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:56,240
day i don't know why i didn't

1079
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:58,400
uh i guess because i was a wage slave

1080
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:59,839
and i didn't feel like paying for a

1081
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:01,280
paper but

1082
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,599
um december 18th 1999 you can't even

1083
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:07,440
find this online

1084
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:11,119
uh the headline read muslims stop the

1085
00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:12,960
free masons from capping the great

1086
00:39:18,670 --> 00:39:15,359
pyramid with gold

1087
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:18,680
that was the headline december 18

1088
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,480
1999 on usa today

1089
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:24,960
no one noticed nobody cared no one said

1090
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:26,560
anything about it

1091
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:28,160
but what was curious with richard

1092
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:30,400
hoagland is he was tracking

1093
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:33,119
the the same things me and him were on a

1094
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:34,079
lot of the same

1095
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,839
you know i just loved eating his stuff

1096
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:37,760
up like i just anyway

1097
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:41,680
uh so there was egyptian flight 990

1098
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:44,000
which was named thothmosis

1099
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,320
uh which some have even believed

1100
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:48,240
although moses was moses and

1101
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:51,599
you know converted from egypt but anyway

1102
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:54,800
uh so egyptian flight 990

1103
00:40:02,790 --> 00:39:58,480
flew out of uh new york

1104
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:02,800
it went and landed in laguar oh wait i

1105
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,640
got that backwards okay so it starts

1106
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:06,160
from laguardia

1107
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:10,079
uh it lands at uh patterson air force

1108
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:13,119
base and

1109
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:14,880
i have to keep all these these names

1110
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:16,400
straight it picks up

1111
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:19,440
33 egyptian military there now this is

1112
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:20,880
the first time

1113
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:25,680
a commercial airline had ever landed

1114
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:27,760
at any of these bases and especially

1115
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:28,800
this one and this

1116
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:30,880
we could we can find documentation on

1117
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:33,359
this yeah egyptian flight 990

1118
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:36,640
990 and then the 33 right

1119
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:39,599
right yes okay yeah 33 egyptian military

1120
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:39,920
plus

1121
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:43,760
a head of jet propulsion laboratories uh

1122
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:47,520
so we got the crowley exactly

1123
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:51,680
enterprise exactly and so then they fly

1124
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,400
from i i'm pretty sure it's patterson

1125
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:56,400
you we can double check that

1126
00:41:03,349 --> 00:40:59,760
but of course it was a ufo uh you know

1127
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:03,359
space and then so these 33 egyptian

1128
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,720
military and the jet propulsion

1129
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:06,400
laboratory scientists fly off to

1130
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:07,200
laguardia

1131
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,520
to start their trip to the pyramids

1132
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:14,400
to egypt this is all you know right

1133
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:16,000
before y2k

1134
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:21,119
and the the airplane egyptian flight 990

1135
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:23,839
suddenly takes a nosedive

1136
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,560
and the pilot seems to get control of it

1137
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:27,839
again

1138
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:30,880
and then it takes another nosedive

1139
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:33,200
he calls out a muslim prayer because he

1140
00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:35,440
was an egyptian pilot

1141
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:38,960
and the airplane crashes into the ocean

1142
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:45,910
so since this was pre-terrorist

1143
00:41:52,570 --> 00:41:50,480
they called it uh pilot suicide

1144
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:52,580
because of the prayer that he called out

1145
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:55,280
[Music]

1146
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:58,240
and so then all of those people died and

1147
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:59,040
suddenly

1148
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:00,640
they announced muslims stopped the

1149
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:02,160
freemasons from capping the great

1150
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:04,240
pyramid with gold

1151
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:07,200
wow and the capping never happened they

1152
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:07,680
of course

1153
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,160
later said that the reason the cap and

1154
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,000
capping of the pyramid didn't happen was

1155
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:13,920
they were worried about the helicopter

1156
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:15,280
causing

1157
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,000
destruction as they laid this giant gold

1158
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:20,480
capstone on top

1159
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,960
because you can find the story about

1160
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:24,960
them cancelling the capital or the

1161
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:26,880
capping of the great pyramid

1162
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:29,839
but you cannot find that usa today

1163
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:31,599
headline that says muslims stop the

1164
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:32,960
freemasons from capping the great

1165
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:33,440
pyramid

1166
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:36,480
gold i've wanted that forever

1167
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,720
ever i got i'm so mad at myself for not

1168
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:40,720
buying it

1169
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,839
you know this is the kind of stuff like

1170
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:44,319
um

1171
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,119
i always have to tell folks like you you

1172
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:49,520
know because sometimes i think you guys

1173
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:50,960
i don't know i shouldn't say this but

1174
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:53,040
like i i started

1175
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:56,400
my thing talking to scientists

1176
00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:58,640
and i still talk to a lot of scientists

1177
00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:01,040
you know like

1178
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:03,119
donald hoffman you know as a physicist

1179
00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:04,079
at caltech

1180
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,839
you know he's got a really popular ted

1181
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:09,599
talks and he's kind of a frontier

1182
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:10,480
science guy

1183
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:13,280
but he's a [\h__\h] physicist at caltech

1184
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,000
you know

1185
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:16,319
right and so i got hundreds of

1186
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,839
interviews with people like that

1187
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:19,599
and they're awesome don hoffman

1188
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:21,680
particularly is awesome because he has

1189
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:22,640
this

1190
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:27,440
deeper understanding of consciousness

1191
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:32,720
but that whole world that i started with

1192
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:35,040
they are completely shut down on all

1193
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:36,400
this stuff

1194
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:39,599
and the really hard part is because lord

1195
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:40,880
knows i've tried

1196
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:44,000
they don't have a path in you know

1197
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,400
like they've totally shut me i shouldn't

1198
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:47,920
say totally because i still have a ton

1199
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:48,720
of friends

1200
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:52,720
in that community but you talk pizzagate

1201
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:56,079
they're gone they're gone they're saying

1202
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,960
you're q a

1203
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:58,400
i don't even know what i i wouldn't even

1204
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:00,319
know where to begin what q anon is

1205
00:44:06,109 --> 00:44:03,280
all i know is you know it's like if you

1206
00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:06,119
talk to anyone who's really uh

1207
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:09,920
investigated uh the abuse of kids

1208
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:13,200
and dissociation dissociative identity

1209
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:14,000
disorder

1210
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:17,119
and mk ultra as a part of

1211
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:19,280
you know again back to whitley street

1212
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,800
but then if you also look at it from a

1213
00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:22,000
satanic ritual abuse

1214
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:23,599
you know documented cases where they've

1215
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:25,520
actually arrested people and put them in

1216
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:26,640
prison

1217
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,839
the first thing they'll tell you about

1218
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:29,359
pizzagate is well i don't know if your

1219
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,440
pizzagate thing is true or not but it

1220
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:33,599
certainly fits with just about every you

1221
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:35,119
know a dozen other

1222
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:38,079
cases that i've heard but i guess back

1223
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:39,599
to my point is

1224
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:42,720
there's a whole other world out there of

1225
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:47,839
people who are totally shut down to this

1226
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:52,640
and i think that's really a problem

1227
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:55,040
i think it's a problem going forward

1228
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:55,760
because

1229
00:45:02,630 --> 00:44:59,280
if you can't hear the 9 9

1230
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:02,640
the 990 story that you just said

1231
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:05,599
and maybe i'll put it this way this is

1232
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,520
just my little rant here for a minute

1233
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:09,839
but if you don't hear the there's two

1234
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:12,400
ways to react to the 990 story

1235
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:16,160
first is okay next give me the next

1236
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:18,720
you know this if they're listening to me

1237
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:19,200
they're going

1238
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:21,760
alex is on this another wacky thing next

1239
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:22,240
show

1240
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,359
right but the other thing is to go oh i

1241
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:27,440
gotta immediately go google that

1242
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,680
i gotta google the [\h__\h] out of that i

1243
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:31,200
gotta spend the next

1244
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:34,240
two hours getting to the absolute

1245
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:36,720
rock bottom of that because if that's

1246
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:37,440
true

1247
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:39,359
that's gonna fundamentally change

1248
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:40,640
something i believe

1249
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:44,880
you know and if we can't get more people

1250
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:47,359
into that second category of saying well

1251
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,280
i don't know if it's true or not but

1252
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:51,599
i know enough to know that that's

1253
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:53,440
something that has to be investigated

1254
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,720
if we can't get there i mean

1255
00:46:01,990 --> 00:45:58,400
that's where i really think they got us

1256
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:02,000
exactly exactly where they want where

1257
00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:05,440
you know we we don't know

1258
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:07,359
how to figure out what settles saying

1259
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:08,880
[\h__\h] from shanola

1260
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:12,000
you know we don't know because we have

1261
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:13,440
all the resources right there we got the

1262
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:14,560
freaking internet the

1263
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:17,520
the great even right as much isn't even

1264
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:19,359
as much as they've taken away

1265
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,079
there's still enough there to to do

1266
00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:27,670
i totally agree i totally agree here we

1267
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:29,119
are i thought this was going to be the

1268
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,359
full-on information age dump and

1269
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:33,599
everybody was going to be up on there

1270
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:37,359
and no ah it was the world wide web

1271
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:45,510
well or well i mean as far as we became

1272
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:47,359
we became right right the truth

1273
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:49,280
community became

1274
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:51,520
quite the disappointment you know like

1275
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,680
uh hey so one thing we are going to we

1276
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:54,960
got to talk about today

1277
00:47:02,870 --> 00:46:58,079
because in that topic i mean

1278
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:04,470
because man i hear you saying two

1279
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:06,720
completely different things

1280
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:10,319
about flat earth and one of them

1281
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,560
i totally get and i totally think is

1282
00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:14,319
important to

1283
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,319
kind of understand you know in terms of

1284
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:20,880
just this kind of uber empiricism like

1285
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:22,960
show me prove me everything because

1286
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:25,760
i don't believe anything anymore but the

1287
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,200
other thing i hear you saying is you

1288
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:28,880
know you're kind of a space guy

1289
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:31,200
so it's like on another level i don't

1290
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:33,280
think you're taking it

1291
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:36,400
literally true but more as a kind of

1292
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:39,680
metaphor for you know kind of

1293
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:40,559
questioning

1294
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:44,559
what we what we know and what we believe

1295
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:47,920
what weird am i misreading no no that's

1296
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:49,200
exactly correct and

1297
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:51,599
anyone that i've had on the show about

1298
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,960
flat earth

1299
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:54,960
would never actually state that they

1300
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:57,440
believe the earth is flat

1301
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:01,040
it was always an investigation into

1302
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:04,960
deconstructing reality like how much

1303
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:06,960
empirical data do you actually function

1304
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:08,960
from

1305
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:12,319
you know uh you you look at an earth

1306
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:15,359
and we're you know it could be flat

1307
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,160
it could be you don't know and that's

1308
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:20,640
the more important thing not to state

1309
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:21,599
that you know

1310
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,760
and to realize that you have been lied

1311
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:26,000
to over and over throughout your entire

1312
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:27,760
existence by

1313
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:31,440
a conglomerate of scientism and

1314
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:34,000
so how much do you believe because you

1315
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:35,839
actually know it or how much do you

1316
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:37,760
believe because you've been told it

1317
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:40,800
and do you really think there is a uh

1318
00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:44,000
earth core like you know uh

1319
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:46,640
to know what he's been inside the earth

1320
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,280
you know

1321
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:49,359
we've never cut a planet in half to see

1322
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:55,430
so it was always about deconstructing

1323
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,920
reality to the empirical data that you

1324
00:49:01,910 --> 00:48:59,040
actually have

1325
00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:01,920
and then go you know i'm more than

1326
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:03,440
willing to play thought games

1327
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:06,480
and see where they go with it uh but me

1328
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:07,119
no i

1329
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:09,040
totally believe in space i don't believe

1330
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:10,559
in a dome uh

1331
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:13,040
i i watch way too many rocket launches

1332
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:14,640
to think that they're just dumping them

1333
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:17,040
in the ocean you know that was always my

1334
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:17,760
big question

1335
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,359
what about all these rockets man i'm

1336
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:21,920
watching five rocket launches a week

1337
00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:23,839
this year you know 2020 was like the

1338
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:25,280
year of rockets

1339
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,480
uh and so what are you saying

1340
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:30,880
about those and you know oh they just

1341
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,240
dumped those in the ocean there's this

1342
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:34,400
pile of rockets in the ocean you know

1343
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:36,319
but and you gotta you know then you get

1344
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:38,240
the whole did we land on the moon

1345
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:40,559
you know that comes into the story and i

1346
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:42,240
don't know but obviously not in the

1347
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:44,240
craft that they showed us

1348
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:47,599
um and you know but then you got things

1349
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:48,000
like

1350
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,760
buzz aldrin's monolith on phobos

1351
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:54,240
and there's absolute proof of the

1352
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:55,760
monolith on phobos

1353
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,760
sort of because there was a mission to

1354
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:00,880
phobos

1355
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:03,440
and they wanted to see inside photos

1356
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:05,599
they wanted to see if phobos was hollow

1357
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,119
this was a recent mission you know

1358
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:09,280
within the last five years ten years

1359
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:10,960
something like that i covered it when it

1360
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:12,160
happened

1361
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:15,680
and uh they had to announce to us that

1362
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:17,760
we would not be able to see the monolith

1363
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:19,920
on phobos because the cameras had to be

1364
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,200
shut off

1365
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:24,160
for them to run silent past phobos and

1366
00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:26,960
and be able to see inside you know

1367
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,960
so they announced i mean nasa announced

1368
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:30,400
well we won't be able to show you the

1369
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,599
monolith

1370
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:33,440
uh so you know there was some

1371
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:35,440
confirmation at least that

1372
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:38,800
there was a monolith on phobos

1373
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:42,079
so yeah uh i'm i'm you know i'm a space

1374
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:43,839
kid i grew up at cape canaveral i

1375
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:45,040
watched almost

1376
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,359
every rocket launch there was you know

1377
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:49,119
i've been there i've done that

1378
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,720
i've touched them you know so so let me

1379
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:54,800
let me float something else out there

1380
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:56,960
and i don't know exactly where you're

1381
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:57,920
coming down on this

1382
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:01,200
but i can kind of guess and that like

1383
00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:04,640
so again you know first of all

1384
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,319
your background which we talked about a

1385
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:08,000
little bit is

1386
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,119
amazing it's kind of scary in a way

1387
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:14,000
you know for me you know i'm a dad i got

1388
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:15,119
four kids

1389
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:18,079
and to think to think of a kid going

1390
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:19,200
through

1391
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:20,960
you know the experience that you did i

1392
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,559
mean

1393
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:24,640
it's just it's just i don't know you're

1394
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,000
you seem like a very

1395
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:28,880
you're making a huge contribution it's

1396
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:30,880
served you well in so many ways

1397
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:33,680
but at the same time i hate to think

1398
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:34,160
that

1399
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:38,000
just comes along i guess we're all

1400
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:39,280
traumatized so i don't want to make a

1401
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:41,119
big deal out it's your [\h__\h] life

1402
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,800
not mine but i wasn't raised that way

1403
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:44,160
you know i was raised

1404
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:47,359
very conventional midwest you know

1405
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:50,400
dad was in business and you know we went

1406
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:52,079
to greek orthodox church but we all know

1407
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:53,040
it was [\h__\h]

1408
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:54,559
we were scared as hell because it scared

1409
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:56,160
the hell out of us but

1410
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:58,480
you know it was like business so that's

1411
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:00,800
what i did man i played football

1412
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:04,800
and i uh did business and i made money

1413
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:07,839
but all along i was like

1414
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:10,720
taking yoga classes from yogananda out

1415
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:13,200
here in california on correspondence and

1416
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:15,040
not telling anyone because

1417
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:16,960
you know there was just something there

1418
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:18,319
was that side of me too

1419
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:20,160
that i didn't know and i was always

1420
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:22,000
determined that

1421
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,839
if i got to a point where i didn't have

1422
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:25,680
to you know

1423
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:28,640
just work for a living that i wanted to

1424
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,880
figure out the big picture questions you

1425
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:32,640
know who are we why are we here kind of

1426
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:33,440
stuff

1427
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:37,200
so i did and you know when i was

1428
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:39,920
podcasting was just it was just a

1429
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:41,520
vehicle you know it was just like hey

1430
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:42,000
you know

1431
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:45,760
these people if you say you have a show

1432
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:48,160
all these cool people will actually talk

1433
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:48,800
to you

1434
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:51,440
right and call them up kind of thing but

1435
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:52,800
kind of that's a kind of a long way

1436
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:54,480
around the barn way

1437
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:57,760
of getting to this science

1438
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:01,280
thing that is kind of important to me

1439
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:03,280
because i think we are going to need

1440
00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:06,480
science going forward and i think what

1441
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:07,599
we've experienced

1442
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:11,920
in this last year is kind of like

1443
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:16,000
you know the final slap in your face

1444
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:20,800
joke science kind of explosion

1445
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,280
where these guys don't even feel like

1446
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,119
they need to

1447
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:28,079
really even present any science it's

1448
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:29,119
just

1449
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:32,720
all fake it's all overtly fake and they

1450
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:34,480
don't even pretend like it's anything

1451
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:35,680
else they're just gonna

1452
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:37,839
pass along edicts and you know you're

1453
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:39,280
gonna follow it and

1454
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:41,119
there's no they don't even pretend like

1455
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:43,040
there's a phony baloney scientific board

1456
00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:44,720
that's reviewing it it's just like hey

1457
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:45,599
man

1458
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:48,160
this is it you know and we were asleep

1459
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,200
at the switch

1460
00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:51,359
with uh some of us were some of us

1461
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:52,559
weren't i wasn't

1462
00:53:55,829 --> 00:53:53,680
you know when they tried to pull the

1463
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:55,839
whole thing with with climate change and

1464
00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:57,520
they got called on it over and over

1465
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:58,880
again and i think they kind of learned

1466
00:54:01,270 --> 00:54:00,240
their lesson this time they're like no

1467
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:01,280
we ain't even go

1468
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:04,000
why aren't even going that way but again

1469
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:04,319
i'm

1470
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:09,119
because my point is

1471
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:11,680
this flat earth stuff this looks so

1472
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:12,640
psyopy

1473
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:16,880
to me it looks like such a controlled

1474
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:20,160
uh meme narrative to implant

1475
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:23,359
into this alt-alt community this truth

1476
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,160
or community

1477
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:26,160
whatever you want to call it that we're

1478
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:29,280
a part of that i feel like i'm a part of

1479
00:54:35,589 --> 00:54:32,880
it seems like such a [\h__\h]

1480
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:35,599
head fake to immediately divide people

1481
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:36,480
because like i say

1482
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:39,040
you know freeman if i go back through my

1483
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:40,079
interviews

1484
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:43,119
there's 200 people that i could never

1485
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:46,240
even they'd i i wouldn't even have a

1486
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:48,079
chance of talking to them

1487
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:50,160
if i said well you know flat earth i

1488
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:52,000
mean maybe we don't know this

1489
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:54,880
it would be a non-starter it would be

1490
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:56,319
not even wrong

1491
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:59,280
kind of thing it is so and and the fact

1492
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,960
that it's gained so much traction and

1493
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:02,640
again so this is a legitimate question

1494
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:04,319
here it's not really a rant

1495
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:05,920
because my experience in doing my show

1496
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:08,160
and i've done my show for a long time

1497
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:10,400
the first i really heard about flat

1498
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:11,520
earth because

1499
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:15,440
is out of nowhere people were popping up

1500
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:18,880
with you know show suggestions to do a

1501
00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:20,319
show on flat earth

1502
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:23,200
because i had a kind of a sciency show

1503
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:25,359
and i was like wow that's really strange

1504
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:25,839
why

1505
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:29,359
earth if they've ever

1506
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:31,040
and they always had this phony baloney

1507
00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:33,440
like oh i love the show

1508
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,599
i listen to the show all the time you

1509
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:37,440
should do this i'm like

1510
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:39,520
if you [\h__\h] knew anything about the

1511
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:41,200
show you wouldn't be sending me an

1512
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:44,480
email on flat earth so who is

1513
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:48,720
trying to kind of promote this dialogue

1514
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,040
this debate

1515
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,160
scientific debate about flat earth it

1516
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:56,640
just seems so psyopy to me

1517
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:59,040
yeah yeah there's a couple of examples

1518
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:01,280
that i've had throughout my career

1519
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:02,880
and first i wanted to go back to my

1520
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:04,880
youth and just to tell you that if you

1521
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,359
wanted to know what my youth was like

1522
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,160
uh watch the wonder years it's friggin

1523
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:12,720
my life it's crazy i showed it to my mom

1524
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:14,559
while she was dying i was taking care of

1525
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:17,040
my mom while she was passing from cancer

1526
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,880
and i turned on the wonder years for her

1527
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,240
and said just watch this

1528
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:22,160
she was tripping out it was as if they

1529
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,520
were in our living room

1530
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:25,440
yeah except for i have a big sister

1531
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:26,960
remind people about

1532
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:29,920
the wonder years what it was great show

1533
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:31,839
yeah i honestly didn't watch it

1534
00:56:37,589 --> 00:56:35,839
uh i watched it later on in life um

1535
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:37,599
and was just kind of tripping out

1536
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:39,920
because it was so similar to my life

1537
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:42,160
but uh so i can't honestly tell you

1538
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:43,680
anything about the wonder ears

1539
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:45,200
but it's a show i think it's from like

1540
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:47,839
the early 2000s or the 1990s but it's

1541
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:48,880
really kind of set

1542
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:52,319
in the late 60s 70s of a kind of kid

1543
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:54,480
growing up who

1544
00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:58,000
you know is trying to is faced with all

1545
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,359
this wonder but his family isn't really

1546
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,200
open doesn't seem to be open to a lot of

1547
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:05,280
wonder but maybe they are kind of thing

1548
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:06,240
right i mean it's kind of

1549
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:08,480
yeah yeah and that was totally my life i

1550
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:10,559
mean literally my mom was tripping out

1551
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:11,760
because it really you know

1552
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:15,440
same same age same year same everything

1553
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:18,640
and so uh that one that won't

1554
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:20,640
even freak my mom out on her deathbed

1555
00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:23,520
like oh my god i'm watching my life

1556
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:26,559
on the wonder years okay but uh on on

1557
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:28,079
back to the flat earth

1558
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,920
i just want anybody to think that i was

1559
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:31,839
like raised in some sort of crazy cult

1560
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:32,640
or uh

1561
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,799
you know mk ultra thing it was no i had

1562
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:36,720
a wonderful wonderful youth

1563
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:39,760
uh it was you know i had an absent

1564
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:40,559
father but

1565
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:44,880
you know whatever he took care of us uh

1566
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:48,640
but as far as like knowledge and and

1567
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:50,799
emotions there you know there wasn't any

1568
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:51,920
of that but

1569
00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:54,559
okay so back to the flat earth though

1570
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:56,079
there's been a couple examples in my

1571
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:56,960
career where

1572
00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:59,359
i'm a grassroots reporter right like i

1573
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,359
started the freeman perspective no one

1574
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,599
had ever seen a tv show like that before

1575
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,760
when i unveiled the corporate logos the

1576
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:07,440
high profile rituals

1577
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:10,640
uh you know i i already was so

1578
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,480
far ahead that uh you know my tv show

1579
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:16,640
was like this major hit

1580
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,720
um but of course it was just on access

1581
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:20,640
in texas you know it wasn't until later

1582
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:22,400
when google came out with video that we

1583
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:24,319
could start putting online

1584
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:27,280
but um and you said it was in austin

1585
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:28,559
with alex jones

1586
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,599
yeah yeah yeah i mean if i would get

1587
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:33,280
into that story real quick i

1588
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:36,400
i got to austin i didn't know of alex

1589
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,200
jones

1590
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:39,839
so i had it turns out i had heard of him

1591
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:40,720
but i didn't know

1592
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:43,839
that like i had seen his bohemian grove

1593
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:45,599
film at like three in the morning on

1594
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:46,720
bravo

1595
00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:48,960
uh but when i got to austin i started

1596
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:50,319
hearing him on the radio

1597
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:53,920
so this was 2004 and i didn't

1598
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:56,960
know of alex then and so i started to

1599
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,599
learn

1600
00:59:00,630 --> 00:58:59,520
listening to him so he would give an

1601
00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:00,640
address of where

1602
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:02,880
his studios were so i want to hunt him

1603
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:05,599
down now i was just living in my van

1604
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:07,839
on christmas light street in austin i

1605
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:09,760
did the tv show

1606
00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:13,440
while living in my van wow yeah

1607
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:16,559
and i was only in austin for the weekend

1608
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:19,920
and uh all right i'll give you the whole

1609
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:21,040
story

1610
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:22,640
we're we're just gonna have to turn this

1611
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,720
into uh you're gonna have to give me

1612
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:26,559
this recording because i didn't start

1613
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:28,400
recording yet

1614
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:31,040
no no but this this is classic stuff i

1615
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:32,079
mean the visual

1616
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:35,119
i'm getting is unbelievable alex has

1617
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:35,920
gone to

1618
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:39,599
bohemian grove he's exposed like

1619
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:42,480
for for a lot of us in this community

1620
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:43,200
it's just like

1621
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:45,680
a monumental event you know alex jones

1622
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,880
and the

1623
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:49,520
the the in there with yeah so so there

1624
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:50,240
you are

1625
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:52,079
and you're about to meet alex jones

1626
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:53,520
because you're just living in your

1627
00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:56,319
van driving around from state to state

1628
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,200
because

1629
01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:59,119
you and your nephew were hanging out in

1630
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:00,240
daytona beach

1631
01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:03,200
it had a freaking five-hour missing time

1632
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:05,680
with this huge ufo in the sky

1633
01:00:09,589 --> 01:00:08,319
so you're now just a wandering kind of

1634
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:09,599
mystic kind of guy

1635
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:11,920
right right right yeah no i wandered the

1636
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:12,720
earth and i

1637
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,119
told the the secret history of of the

1638
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:17,040
world you know i was studying

1639
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:20,559
the 12th planet enki and endless and

1640
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:22,799
the lulu and all of that so i was

1641
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:24,799
wandering the earth telling everybody

1642
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:27,119
the secret mysteries of life on planet

1643
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:28,799
earth as if i were

1644
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:30,960
like an alien right just visiting your

1645
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:32,720
planet and telling you what you don't

1646
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:33,680
know

1647
01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:36,480
and so i'm in austin texas for the

1648
01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:37,280
weekend

1649
01:00:41,349 --> 01:00:40,160
and i get i meet this homeless guy on a

1650
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:41,359
city bus

1651
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:44,079
and he's like kind of i mean anyone else

1652
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:45,440
probably would have been scared off by

1653
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:46,319
him he had one

1654
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:49,040
white eye his gray hair all greasy and

1655
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:50,720
tied back but he was so

1656
01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:53,680
happy he was like the most jovial guy

1657
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:54,640
ever and he

1658
01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:57,280
bounces over the bus and he lands in the

1659
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:58,720
seat next to me

1660
01:01:03,430 --> 01:01:01,359
and he says you just look so interesting

1661
01:01:06,950 --> 01:01:03,440
i want to do your numerology

1662
01:01:08,950 --> 01:01:06,960
and i'm like all right so he does my

1663
01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:08,960
numerology and he's like you're the

1664
01:01:13,990 --> 01:01:11,280
goddess you're the goddess oh my god

1665
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:14,000
now what was really weird is i i was i

1666
01:01:18,390 --> 01:01:16,000
ended up making a film about the goddess

1667
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:18,400
about colombia and i was the only expert

1668
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:20,480
you will ever find on colombia

1669
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:22,480
and who she was and why she's our

1670
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:24,400
capital and all of that

1671
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:27,119
and uh so that was kind of weird that i

1672
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:27,839
ended up

1673
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:30,319
unveiling the goddess as my second

1674
01:01:33,109 --> 01:01:31,680
television show

1675
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:33,119
because this guy kept saying you're the

1676
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:35,520
goddess you're the goddess but so

1677
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:38,000
it turns out he lives in his van just a

1678
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:39,920
couple of blocks from where i live in my

1679
01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:41,280
van

1680
01:01:47,589 --> 01:01:45,760
oh you got to go to this mall there's a

1681
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:47,599
speaker there and you really should see

1682
01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:48,240
it

1683
01:01:52,150 --> 01:01:50,000
and i didn't know who or what or

1684
01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:52,160
anything but i went ahead he gave me all

1685
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,680
the bus routes you know because you just

1686
01:01:55,829 --> 01:01:54,960
leave your van where it's parked take

1687
01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:55,839
the bus but

1688
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:57,680
i took the bus to the mall i get to the

1689
01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:59,200
mall it's like a dead mall

1690
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:00,559
you know i don't even think the stores

1691
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:02,000
were open i don't know there was nobody

1692
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:03,760
there but i saw a few people wandering

1693
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:05,440
around so i followed and i found out

1694
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:06,000
there

1695
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:10,640
was george greene and george greene was

1696
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:13,760
the uh ex-financial advisor to jimmy

1697
01:02:17,109 --> 01:02:14,559
carter

1698
01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:17,119
who my dad knew and he was a

1699
01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:18,799
build-a-burger he was a

1700
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:21,119
billionaire and all of this and he had

1701
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:22,400
gone out to

1702
01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:26,000
uh switzerland and met with billy meyer

1703
01:02:30,470 --> 01:02:28,960
and was now publishing the books written

1704
01:02:32,829 --> 01:02:30,480
by the palladians

1705
01:02:33,990 --> 01:02:32,839
or as they were known then as the

1706
01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:34,000
plagiarism uh

1707
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:38,079
which was handbook for new paradigm

1708
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:40,480
i think is what it was called so so

1709
01:02:46,150 --> 01:02:43,200
billy meyer just in case people forget

1710
01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:46,160
is this guy who had these incredible

1711
01:02:51,990 --> 01:02:48,480
photos of ufos

1712
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:52,000
later exposed that some of them at least

1713
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:54,720
were not at all legit but we never

1714
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:55,359
really

1715
01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:58,319
come to the bottom of that story of you

1716
01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:58,960
know this

1717
01:03:02,710 --> 01:03:01,119
misinformation disinformation real

1718
01:03:04,230 --> 01:03:02,720
information kind of thing

1719
01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:04,240
but there are a lot of people who really

1720
01:03:07,349 --> 01:03:05,680
looked into it who thought he was

1721
01:03:08,470 --> 01:03:07,359
totally legit and still believe he's

1722
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:08,480
totally legit

1723
01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:11,520
so this is like just a moon shot

1724
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:14,079
that you're there and george green is

1725
01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:16,319
talking about just coming back from

1726
01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:18,720
i mean that had to be no one knew billy

1727
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:20,160
meyer at this point

1728
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:23,359
it was like right yeah yeah

1729
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:25,359
well you know i did i guess because i

1730
01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:28,000
knew like out

1731
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:30,480
on the x-files you know uh fox mulder's

1732
01:03:35,109 --> 01:03:31,920
poster was a billy meyer

1733
01:03:36,470 --> 01:03:35,119
yeah yeah yeah that's right right um

1734
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:36,480
but i'm sorry keep keep going with the

1735
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:38,640
story you're at the mall yeah yeah yeah

1736
01:03:42,630 --> 01:03:41,359
george green so george green is like

1737
01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:42,640
talking to just like

1738
01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:44,480
a handful of people that are meeting at

1739
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:46,480
an abandoned mall in austin

1740
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:49,200
yeah yeah and what was really weird is i

1741
01:03:51,990 --> 01:03:49,760
had met

1742
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:52,000
a number of the people in the audience

1743
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:53,760
like you know i was only there for a

1744
01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:54,640
couple of days

1745
01:03:58,069 --> 01:03:56,960
and and the few people that i had met

1746
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:58,079
were all there

1747
01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:59,440
and then it turned out they all knew

1748
01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:01,200
each other so i was kind of tripping out

1749
01:04:05,349 --> 01:04:02,880
on all of that

1750
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:05,359
and uh george green is showing us how

1751
01:04:08,309 --> 01:04:06,480
magnetivity

1752
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:08,319
uh gives you free energy and

1753
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:09,760
anti-gravity

1754
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:11,760
he showed how you could take a piece of

1755
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:14,319
pvc tube and put magnets inside of it

1756
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:16,559
and if you leave one space blank

1757
01:04:20,230 --> 01:04:18,240
you can put that over a magnet and it'll

1758
01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:20,240
make the magnet rotate and you know he

1759
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:22,480
showed us all the examples of this and

1760
01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:24,000
showed us how on the

1761
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:26,240
billy meyer spacecraft they had these

1762
01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:27,039
large

1763
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:29,599
spheres around the top of spacecraft but

1764
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:31,839
one sphere was missing and so he showed

1765
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:33,680
us how the magnetic propulsion worked

1766
01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:35,039
and all of that

1767
01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:38,160
and then he handed us all a copy of a

1768
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:40,000
handbook for a new paradigm

1769
01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:43,039
which i read and did not jive with

1770
01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:46,079
at all like it did not it didn't go with

1771
01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:48,480
me at all like i've read all the barbara

1772
01:04:52,630 --> 01:04:50,720
marciniaks and the barber hand clothes

1773
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:52,640
and i was a palladian like when i was

1774
01:04:55,349 --> 01:04:54,400
wandering the earth telling people i was

1775
01:04:57,829 --> 01:04:55,359
an alien

1776
01:04:59,670 --> 01:04:57,839
i believed i was palladian you know not

1777
01:05:00,710 --> 01:04:59,680
like i had come from space but that my

1778
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:00,720
soul had

1779
01:05:06,789 --> 01:05:04,400
you know and so i was

1780
01:05:08,470 --> 01:05:06,799
free to just talk these things openly

1781
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:08,480
with people and i knew things that no

1782
01:05:13,349 --> 01:05:10,000
one knew

1783
01:05:14,910 --> 01:05:13,359
such as uh saddam hussein

1784
01:05:16,390 --> 01:05:14,920
claiming to be nebuchadnezzar

1785
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:16,400
reincarnated

1786
01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:18,079
and then they used the mother of all

1787
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:19,920
bombs in the shock and awe

1788
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:23,119
so the moabs attacked nebuchadnezzar

1789
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:25,760
and shocking oz is a play on the hebrew

1790
01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:27,760
word shekinah which is the

1791
01:05:31,829 --> 01:05:30,559
whirlwind which george bush mentioned so

1792
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:31,839
i was talking about these type of

1793
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:34,319
ritualistic aspects of warfare and

1794
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:37,680
and all of that and so during a break

1795
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:40,000
in the lecture i we were all standing

1796
01:05:43,589 --> 01:05:42,160
outside and i started telling people

1797
01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:43,599
these things

1798
01:05:48,549 --> 01:05:46,640
and as i'm talking this seven foot

1799
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:48,559
blonde man

1800
01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:50,880
comes storming over he kind of freaked

1801
01:05:54,549 --> 01:05:52,640
me out for a minute but i could see that

1802
01:05:56,230 --> 01:05:54,559
he was friendly he had a nice smile on

1803
01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:56,240
his face but he was like super tall and

1804
01:06:00,789 --> 01:05:57,359
blonde you know

1805
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:00,799
and uh he's like you need a tv show

1806
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:02,640
and i'm like what are you talking about

1807
01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:05,039
he says no no seriously i want to put

1808
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:06,880
you on television and i'm like i don't

1809
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:07,520
know

1810
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:11,599
face out there in the midst of all that

1811
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:12,640
i believe

1812
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:15,680
and actually you know come forward as me

1813
01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:17,760
on television talking about this stuff

1814
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:19,440
i'm like i don't know

1815
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:21,359
and he says no no look i'll write you a

1816
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:22,880
check right here and now

1817
01:06:25,990 --> 01:06:24,960
if you take it down to access studios

1818
01:06:29,510 --> 01:06:26,000
and sign up for

1819
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:29,520
for a tv show and i'm like ah man do

1820
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:31,119
you know i had like five seconds to

1821
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,880
decide whether i was going to literally

1822
01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:35,039
put my face out there for big brother or

1823
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:36,960
satan to take down

1824
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:40,079
and i was like all right let's do it

1825
01:06:43,910 --> 01:06:41,359
let's do it

1826
01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:43,920
and so he hands me the check and i go

1827
01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:46,480
down to access studios i sign up to be a

1828
01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:47,760
producer

1829
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:51,200
and i get my time slot and as i had said

1830
01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:52,559
i had been trying to hunt down alex

1831
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:54,480
jones all this time and i couldn't find

1832
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:54,880
him

1833
01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:56,960
because he lies about where his studio

1834
01:07:02,789 --> 01:06:59,680
is which makes sense

1835
01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:02,799
uh there's alex you know so it turns out

1836
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:04,960
the universe made sure that i was on the

1837
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:05,920
same plane

1838
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:08,960
as alex to meet him you see because if i

1839
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:10,480
had met him in any other way he would

1840
01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:11,520
have just ignored me

1841
01:07:16,150 --> 01:07:13,680
he wouldn't have cared who i was but

1842
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:16,160
because we were now both access studios

1843
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:19,680
i was in the club and so i walk in with

1844
01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:21,839
the very first moment i see alex and i'm

1845
01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:23,359
like hey you know i've been waiting to

1846
01:07:28,230 --> 01:07:24,480
meet you

1847
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:28,240
and um i said i said to him

1848
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:29,920
well i heard you were the only other

1849
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:32,640
person to predict 9 11 to the day

1850
01:07:36,789 --> 01:07:35,359
and he said well uh not to the day and i

1851
01:07:39,029 --> 01:07:36,799
was like oh

1852
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:39,039
cause i had you know but i didn't

1853
01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:40,319
predict what would happen

1854
01:07:43,510 --> 01:07:41,920
you know he was closer to predicting

1855
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:43,520
what would happen

1856
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:45,920
and but i knew the day because i follow

1857
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:47,440
capitalism and

1858
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:49,839
and the magic and such and so i was able

1859
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:50,880
to predict that

1860
01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:52,079
you know there's going to be a major

1861
01:07:55,990 --> 01:07:54,000
terrorist attack on 9 11. they'll freak

1862
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:56,000
out this is all for your reaction was my

1863
01:08:02,069 --> 01:07:59,440
actual quote um but so

1864
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:02,079
uh you know so i got to kind of polish

1865
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:03,920
my fingernails after alex saying he

1866
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:04,480
didn't

1867
01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:07,039
predict the day and and then i was like

1868
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:07,680
you know

1869
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:12,640
that it's actually a representation of

1870
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:14,720
the goddess within the illuminati that

1871
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:16,560
they're owl worshipers and that these

1872
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:18,719
all go to the goddess uh minerva

1873
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:22,239
and diana i didn't know that

1874
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:25,120
yeah yeah i mean the the illuminati has

1875
01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:25,920
never used an

1876
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:28,719
i in the pyramid symbol that's freemason

1877
01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:29,279
uh

1878
01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:31,679
the and these were the things i was

1879
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:32,960
trying to

1880
01:08:37,749 --> 01:08:36,080
stamp down once uh my once my

1881
01:08:40,149 --> 01:08:37,759
information reached the public it

1882
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:40,159
suddenly expanded into this mythos

1883
01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:42,159
you know it went from my science to a

1884
01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:43,759
mythology and so

1885
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:45,520
i've been trying to stamp those fires

1886
01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:47,199
out all this time saying no

1887
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:48,799
look you know but nobody will listen to

1888
01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:50,319
me because they don't realize that i'm

1889
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:52,239
the guy who came up with the idea

1890
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:54,960
you know how that happened is i actually

1891
01:08:59,910 --> 01:08:57,120
once i learned dad was freemason i

1892
01:09:01,269 --> 01:08:59,920
i dug deep i've been to every mason

1893
01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:01,279
temple in america

1894
01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:03,440
uh just about i mean the major ones the

1895
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:04,640
the the

1896
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:07,359
uh grand lodges i've been to every

1897
01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:09,679
almost every grand lodge in america

1898
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:13,040
and in london and in australia uh

1899
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:16,080
and even in guatemala i went to the

1900
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:17,920
lodge there well all of the mace and all

1901
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:19,759
the mayans that i was with in guatemala

1902
01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:20,080
were

1903
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:22,880
mason so anyway i got so deep into this

1904
01:09:27,269 --> 01:09:25,040
i've been to the temple of the 33rd

1905
01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:27,279
countless times i i'm friends with the

1906
01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:29,679
head librarian she loved me so much she

1907
01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:31,040
wanted to take me through the whole

1908
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,000
building show me

1909
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:34,719
all the floor plans secretly gave me

1910
01:09:38,229 --> 01:09:36,400
copies of morals and dogma and the

1911
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:38,239
glossary of morals and dogma and told me

1912
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:40,799
to sneak out of the 33rd with them

1913
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:43,359
uh you know this all happened and i

1914
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:45,359
studied their rituals i have my dad's

1915
01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:47,600
handbooks he was worshipful master so i

1916
01:09:52,309 --> 01:09:49,839
have all his secret and coded

1917
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,319
rituals that i decoded because i was

1918
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:54,080
always into ciphers and everything when

1919
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:55,679
i was a kid so i just so

1920
01:10:02,070 --> 01:09:58,960
decoded these entire ritual books and

1921
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:02,080
thank god just help me out so

1922
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:06,560
you show up at these various freemason

1923
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:08,960
temples what's what's your in you know

1924
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:11,520
to get beyond just kind of the

1925
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:13,840
velvet rope rubbed off part you know is

1926
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:14,800
it your dad

1927
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:17,920
is it do they somehow connect with you

1928
01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:19,760
know you're coming and what is your name

1929
01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:21,199
no not that i know of i

1930
01:10:26,149 --> 01:10:24,239
i just pay for the tour uh

1931
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:26,159
but they all have to somehow you're

1932
01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:28,080
you're you're you're kind of brought in

1933
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:30,320
at a deeper i get singled

1934
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:33,679
because i have the right questions

1935
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:37,040
and i have the right interests

1936
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:39,760
so like when i walked into the 33rd for

1937
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:41,120
the first time and met the

1938
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:45,520
the head librarian uh she

1939
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:48,480
uh yeah i was asking her about manley p

1940
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:48,960
hall

1941
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:50,640
and and it just turned out that they had

1942
01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:52,960
the secret teachings of all ages open

1943
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:55,600
right there on the 33rd table

1944
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,320
and so you know then i got all excited

1945
01:11:01,910 --> 01:11:00,159
about this and was asking about albert

1946
01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:01,920
pike in the albert pike room and that's

1947
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:02,640
when she

1948
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:04,800
uh left us and she said no you're not

1949
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:06,320
allowed to be alone here but i'm going

1950
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:07,760
to leave you alone here

1951
01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:09,920
and she ran off and got the copies of

1952
01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:11,679
morals and dogma and glossary to morals

1953
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:13,760
and dogma and brought them back and gave

1954
01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:15,760
them to me in the albert pike room who

1955
01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:16,960
is the person who wrote

1956
01:11:23,510 --> 01:11:19,520
morals and dogma and supposedly his

1957
01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:26,950
so i think it's just because well like i

1958
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:27,520
went to

1959
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:29,920
the philosophical research society but

1960
01:11:34,950 --> 01:11:32,080
this was after i was known like

1961
01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:34,960
my time's at the 33rd that was in 1999 i

1962
01:11:39,910 --> 01:11:36,800
didn't have a show yet

1963
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:39,920
or 96. it was no it was 1999 was first

1964
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:42,159
time it was the wto

1965
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:45,040
imf protest so essentially what just

1966
01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:46,480
happened on january

1967
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:49,920
6th we did that back in 1999

1968
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:53,520
and uh against opposing the world trade

1969
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:55,520
organization and international monetary

1970
01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:57,520
fund 500 000 people gathered in the

1971
01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:58,159
streets

1972
01:12:02,310 --> 01:12:00,159
but what had happened was the just the

1973
01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:02,320
week before was the battle of seattle

1974
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:02,960
where the

1975
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:05,840
troops opened fire on all the peaceful

1976
01:12:08,870 --> 01:12:08,320
protesters and shot children and things

1977
01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:08,880
and

1978
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,159
i think they even killed a lady

1979
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:14,480
due to agent provocateurs breaking

1980
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:15,360
windows

1981
01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:17,440
right so of course i covered that story

1982
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:19,120
right before

1983
01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:21,600
january 6th because i wanted everybody

1984
01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:23,120
to know how this would fall

1985
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:24,080
you know they're gonna have agent

1986
01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:25,920
provocateurs breaking the windows and

1987
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:28,560
then the the stormtroopers will come in

1988
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:30,400
and so of course that's exactly what

1989
01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:32,159
happened um

1990
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:34,880
but i experienced that back in 99 and

1991
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:36,880
and

1992
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:38,800
uh that was the first time i just

1993
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:40,800
stumbled into

1994
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:42,880
the the supreme council temple of the

1995
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:44,560
33rd i didn't even know

1996
01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:46,080
that it was on that block in that

1997
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:48,560
neighborhood it's in a very odd space

1998
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:51,440
and i just stumbled across it and so me

1999
01:12:55,669 --> 01:12:52,640
and my friend

2000
01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:55,679
uh we decided well let's and i'm sorry

2001
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:57,120
what city what city is this in

2002
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:59,120
this is washington dc this is in dc

2003
01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:01,040
that's what i thought yeah

2004
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:02,719
so they had the battle for seattle

2005
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:05,040
against the wto imf and there was a

2006
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:05,760
full-on

2007
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:09,040
uh attack on the the protesters so

2008
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:12,560
in defiance of that i went to dc

2009
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:14,400
when the protests moved there the next

2010
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:15,600
week

2011
01:13:20,550 --> 01:13:18,159
and of course it was a big party in the

2012
01:13:21,270 --> 01:13:20,560
streets there was no violence there was

2013
01:13:22,870 --> 01:13:21,280
nothing

2014
01:13:24,950 --> 01:13:22,880
everybody just had a good time although

2015
01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:24,960
i watched 600 people get arrested for

2016
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:27,040
parading without a permit

2017
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:29,600
uh another interesting moment in that

2018
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:31,440
was when i was yelling at all those riot

2019
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:33,840
squads about these people's uh rights

2020
01:13:38,310 --> 01:13:36,719
and then they gave me no response so i

2021
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:38,320
yelled at them how many of you are

2022
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:39,679
widows sons

2023
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:42,400
which is code word for freemason and

2024
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:44,560
every head in that riots line

2025
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:48,080
turned my direction i was like

2026
01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:50,560
so i backed out and that was actually my

2027
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:51,760
very first interview

2028
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:55,040
on indie media back in 99 was the first

2029
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:57,040
time i did an interview on that

2030
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:00,080
but so i just stumbled upon the temple

2031
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:02,159
of the 33rd and dc as we were wandering

2032
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:03,360
around

2033
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:08,000
and uh in 1993 i had actually

2034
01:14:12,149 --> 01:14:10,000
occupied bill clinton's white house for

2035
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:12,159
nine days i slept in his front lawn with

2036
01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:13,520
a hundred other hippies

2037
01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:15,679
we all slept in the white house lawn for

2038
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:16,960
nine days

2039
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:19,920
um but anyway uh so i stumbled into the

2040
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:23,280
the temple of the 33rd and 99 and wto

2041
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,920
protest

2042
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:25,760
and here we are standing in front of

2043
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:28,000
these massive lion knocker doors you

2044
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:30,800
know they're like 12 feet tall doors and

2045
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:34,159
uh there's no there's a little button

2046
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,960
and it says ring bell and i'm like you

2047
01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:38,159
know i'm sitting there like red and

2048
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:40,800
snoopy like do i push it do i push it

2049
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:42,480
and before i even got a chance to push

2050
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:44,640
it another mason walked up behind us

2051
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:46,320
and when i say another mason people

2052
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:47,840
think i'm amazed and i'm not

2053
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:50,000
never have been never swore a lodge

2054
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:51,840
nothing but i've been deep inside of all

2055
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:52,640
of this

2056
01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:55,520
but a mason walked up behind us and at

2057
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:56,080
that moment

2058
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:58,640
the door opened in front of us and so

2059
01:15:00,630 --> 01:15:00,000
they were just kind of caught in the

2060
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:00,640
middle

2061
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:02,960
and they say what do you gentlemen want

2062
01:15:05,669 --> 01:15:04,640
and i said well we want to see the

2063
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:05,679
library

2064
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:08,239
and they said oh come on in and i was

2065
01:15:13,430 --> 01:15:10,000
just so excited i was just

2066
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:13,440
like out of my skin and the the

2067
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:15,440
lead librarian caught up on my

2068
01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:16,560
excitement and

2069
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:19,760
wanted to show me everything and so that

2070
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:21,600
was my first time there and

2071
01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:24,239
since then but then i got the tv show

2072
01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:26,080
started presenting all of this stuff and

2073
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:26,960
then i went to

2074
01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:29,760
the philosophical research society which

2075
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:31,360
was run by manly p

2076
01:15:35,350 --> 01:15:33,040
hall which if you guys don't know about

2077
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:35,360
manley p hall and his philosophies i

2078
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:38,159
highly recommend them he wrote uh secret

2079
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:39,600
destiny of america

2080
01:15:47,830 --> 01:15:46,950
other book i mentioned earlier uh uh

2081
01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:47,840
morals and

2082
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:50,640
uh no no no that's albert pike uh manly

2083
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:50,880
p

2084
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:52,719
hall uh i wrote secret destinies of

2085
01:15:56,950 --> 01:15:54,480
america and um

2086
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:56,960
yeah whatever i'll get it'll it'll flash

2087
01:16:00,630 --> 01:15:58,239
back in a minute but

2088
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:00,640
uh when i got in there i walked in and i

2089
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,880
was instantly recognized by the

2090
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:04,239
doctorate

2091
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:08,239
degrees there at the philosophical

2092
01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:09,920
research society i was an instant

2093
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:10,719
celebrity

2094
01:16:15,430 --> 01:16:13,679
walking into this place had no idea i

2095
01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:15,440
was going to be welcomed like that was

2096
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:16,880
given

2097
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:19,600
granted the honor of sitting in manly p

2098
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:21,600
hall's chair which is like

2099
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:24,480
unheard of no no freeman is this because

2100
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:26,960
the show had somehow gone

2101
01:16:30,550 --> 01:16:29,360
you know kind of going bigger than just

2102
01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:30,560
austin kind of thing

2103
01:16:35,189 --> 01:16:32,960
yeah yeah yeah once the tv show got on

2104
01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:35,199
google i had millions and millions and

2105
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:37,679
millions of followers and then once they

2106
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:39,440
took me from google and put me on

2107
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:40,719
youtube uh

2108
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:42,640
i was completely shadow banned i can't

2109
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:44,800
even upload my own videos to youtube

2110
01:16:48,950 --> 01:16:45,760
most of them

2111
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:48,960
like my lectures side note discussion

2112
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:50,000
after you get done with this because i

2113
01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:51,600
want you to finish that story

2114
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:54,239
uh i i think there's an interesting uh

2115
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:55,440
little point there of

2116
01:16:59,110 --> 01:16:57,840
maybe the first guy to really be shadow

2117
01:17:02,070 --> 01:16:59,120
banned

2118
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:02,080
because so many people to this day don't

2119
01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:03,280
even

2120
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:05,280
understand or acknowledge that that's a

2121
01:17:09,590 --> 01:17:06,400
real thing but

2122
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:09,600
so you you you get the honor of sitting

2123
01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:12,400
in manly p hall's chair and you know the

2124
01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:13,760
other thing that i just would love to

2125
01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:15,520
hear you comment on because i've always

2126
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:16,719
i've heard this you know and you hear

2127
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:20,000
this from different people is that

2128
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:23,440
what what fun is it to be

2129
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:26,800
in this kind of occulted knowledge

2130
01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:29,280
if you can't reveal it sometimes you

2131
01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:30,080
know what i mean

2132
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:32,000
it's like the right because don't you

2133
01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:33,600
find that with these people it's like

2134
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:36,239
what's going on now they kind of want to

2135
01:17:40,630 --> 01:17:38,239
put it in your face in a way

2136
01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:40,640
they want to hide it from like some

2137
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:41,920
people but then for

2138
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:44,080
other of us they want to kind of rub it

2139
01:17:46,790 --> 01:17:45,040
in the face

2140
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:46,800
what do you think of that as as you're

2141
01:17:58,229 --> 01:17:56,430
yeah uh yeah i'm not much into

2142
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:58,239
exclusivity really

2143
01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:01,679
uh so yeah that was always

2144
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:04,080
i i even you know to get into your type

2145
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:05,440
of topics i did a

2146
01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:08,960
a past life regression jungian

2147
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,719
past life regression and it turns out

2148
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:14,800
in my regression i don't know you know

2149
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:16,159
how much but

2150
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:18,560
it turns out i was i was like this fat

2151
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:19,199
bald

2152
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:22,480
egyptian or arabic or something uh

2153
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:26,000
look i look like the guy in um aladdin

2154
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:29,040
the little fat dude right

2155
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:31,040
and it turns out that i had gone into

2156
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:33,040
the egyptian priests

2157
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:36,560
and stolen their book and had running

2158
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:38,239
out to share it with the public

2159
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:41,360
and i was cleaved with a sword through

2160
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:43,360
my collarbone straight down

2161
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:47,520
through my heart and that was my death

2162
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:49,120
and so

2163
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:52,400
that was my egyptian past life i was

2164
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:54,080
actually trying to steal the knowledge

2165
01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:55,600
from the egyptian priests and give it to

2166
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:56,880
the people

2167
01:19:02,070 --> 01:18:59,920
crazy okay so you're back in

2168
01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:02,080
i mean what i was just reacting to is

2169
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:03,840
it's it's it's a huge

2170
01:19:08,950 --> 01:19:05,760
if people are even following the story

2171
01:19:11,189 --> 01:19:08,960
this far you know the another huge

2172
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:11,199
leap but it's also like we've heard it

2173
01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:12,640
so many times

2174
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:15,840
is that somehow they know that you

2175
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:19,440
are kind of supposed to be there

2176
01:19:26,149 --> 01:19:22,560
supposed to be you know

2177
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:26,159
in the chair i have an angelic shine

2178
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:28,800
right i'm fully alive when i'm out there

2179
01:19:33,189 --> 01:19:30,239
on the road like that and

2180
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:33,199
maybe even most you know here i'm sure a

2181
01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:34,480
residual but i

2182
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:37,679
shine like an angel and people feel that

2183
01:19:42,470 --> 01:19:40,560
and miracles happen in my life every day

2184
01:19:43,270 --> 01:19:42,480
of the week when i'm on the road it's

2185
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:43,280
crazy and

2186
01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:45,760
and that's the thing that i spend most

2187
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:47,840
of my time trying to convince people of

2188
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:48,239
is

2189
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:50,560
miracles happen i mean everybody lost

2190
01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:51,280
faith

2191
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:54,239
in miracles this last week there's a lot

2192
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:55,040
of people

2193
01:20:00,229 --> 01:19:58,159
severely defeated um

2194
01:20:01,990 --> 01:20:00,239
but yet my life shows me over and over

2195
01:20:02,470 --> 01:20:02,000
again that there's a greater guiding

2196
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:02,480
force

2197
01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:04,960
if you're open to it that guides you

2198
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:07,040
exactly where you should be instead of

2199
01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:08,960
where you think you need to be

2200
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:12,239
and that's just been my life and giving

2201
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:12,880
up

2202
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:16,320
all egoic drive and just allowing the

2203
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:17,280
universe to

2204
01:20:22,709 --> 01:20:20,320
open the potentials for me and

2205
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:22,719
i found that it knew me way better than

2206
01:20:26,229 --> 01:20:24,480
i know me and it knew the world way

2207
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:26,239
better than i knew the world and i kept

2208
01:20:30,149 --> 01:20:28,080
just getting guided to all the right

2209
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:30,159
places at all the right time

2210
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:32,400
like people would ask me how did you

2211
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:34,800
survive 10 years on the road without a

2212
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:36,480
bank account without you know weren't

2213
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:38,480
you hungry in the streets and

2214
01:20:42,950 --> 01:20:40,880
i'm like no i lived the life of a

2215
01:20:44,950 --> 01:20:42,960
multi-millionaire i was always at the

2216
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:44,960
best parties i was always at the best

2217
01:20:48,950 --> 01:20:47,440
events i was always in the woods or you

2218
01:20:52,149 --> 01:20:48,960
know in beauty

2219
01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:52,159
um you know every life every day was

2220
01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:55,040
fulfilled with just great joy and wonder

2221
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:57,120
and so i think that

2222
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:59,280
registers with people when they feel

2223
01:21:01,910 --> 01:21:01,199
that they want to be a part of it and so

2224
01:21:05,189 --> 01:21:01,920
then you get

2225
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,199
pulled in and i think that's more of

2226
01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:07,280
what it was

2227
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:09,040
yeah that's that's that's amazing i

2228
01:21:14,629 --> 01:21:11,360
gotta i gotta

2229
01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:14,639
punctuate that because it's so freaking

2230
01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:17,040
awesome what you're saying and i also

2231
01:21:21,189 --> 01:21:18,320
think

2232
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:21,199
that if people can get beyond kind of

2233
01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:21,760
the

2234
01:21:27,669 --> 01:21:25,679
thing is always is

2235
01:21:29,110 --> 01:21:27,679
you're triggered hey it's your job not

2236
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:29,120
to be [\h__\h] triggered you know what i

2237
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:29,760
mean right

2238
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:31,280
you'll build up your system so that

2239
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:33,199
you're not triggered but

2240
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:36,800
to your point when you look

2241
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:39,120
into the eyes of the people who right

2242
01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:40,239
now seem to be

2243
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:44,719
our enemies i see fear

2244
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:46,960
i don't see the thing i don't see what

2245
01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:48,480
you're talking about

2246
01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:52,080
i don't see the angelic love the wonder

2247
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:55,199
the divinity the it's all

2248
01:22:01,350 --> 01:21:58,800
part of a plan i see freaking fear

2249
01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:01,360
man yeah and that is empowering because

2250
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:01,920
it's like

2251
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:04,880
oh okay i get it that's where you're at

2252
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:05,520
okay

2253
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:09,520
sorry you know yeah absolutely i feel

2254
01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:11,679
for them the moment joe biden supposedly

2255
01:22:18,149 --> 01:22:13,760
you know was inaugurated i was like

2256
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:18,159
ah sorry guy you're gonna get what you

2257
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:20,159
what you deserve and i'm sorry about

2258
01:22:23,669 --> 01:22:21,440
that uh

2259
01:22:25,270 --> 01:22:23,679
this is you just entered hell and you

2260
01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:25,280
have no idea

2261
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:27,679
but you know so i feel for you biden and

2262
01:22:34,709 --> 01:22:30,719
harris you know you're gonna have uh

2263
01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:34,719
quite the turmoil

2264
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:37,120
what's yeah i mean at a soul level i

2265
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:38,480
mean yeah we just

2266
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:40,320
we don't know you know i just i just

2267
01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:42,400
kind of go with that with that we don't

2268
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:42,800
know

2269
01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:47,520
story we gotta

2270
01:22:50,709 --> 01:22:49,520
we gotta keep going here we can't stop

2271
01:22:54,149 --> 01:22:50,719
we can't leave him

2272
01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:54,159
hanging again you're sitting in manly p

2273
01:22:59,830 --> 01:22:57,440
hall's chair because

2274
01:23:02,470 --> 01:22:59,840
you're the guy right then you're the guy

2275
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:02,480
so what happens next

2276
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:06,000
well honestly that was that was the

2277
01:23:09,910 --> 01:23:09,440
the height of it all in that sense just

2278
01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:09,920
to

2279
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:15,600
shadow banning was happening back with

2280
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:17,760
with google videos i had millions and

2281
01:23:20,229 --> 01:23:19,679
millions of views and then i'd watch the

2282
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:20,239
numbers

2283
01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:22,480
dump down to hundreds of thousands and

2284
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:23,679
then lower

2285
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:26,800
so yeah even before youtube because

2286
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:28,560
i'm actually in a documentary about

2287
01:23:32,629 --> 01:23:30,880
being one of the first youtubers

2288
01:23:34,390 --> 01:23:32,639
but that's because my show goes way back

2289
01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:34,400
before youtube and and

2290
01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:36,159
you know youtube was an afterthought to

2291
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:37,760
me and like well do i really want to

2292
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:39,840
break my videos into 15 minutes and put

2293
01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:42,239
it on youtube yeah why not i'll make

2294
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:44,239
you know make a few little bits just to

2295
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:46,000
make my mark on youtube

2296
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:49,360
and now i'm in a documentary about being

2297
01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:51,760
you know you know we ought to because

2298
01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:53,280
i'm a i'm a tech guy

2299
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:54,400
you know and used to have a tech

2300
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:56,480
business and grew up

2301
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:58,480
in that and and kind of know all that

2302
01:24:01,669 --> 01:23:59,760
stuff because i was

2303
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:01,679
living it on a day-to-day basis a lot of

2304
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:03,600
people forget

2305
01:24:10,149 --> 01:24:07,280
youtube was a startup

2306
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:10,159
that google acquired right and they paid

2307
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:10,960
this just

2308
01:24:14,390 --> 01:24:13,360
what seemed at the time to be a

2309
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:14,400
ridiculous

2310
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:18,719
amount of money and i always you know uh

2311
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:21,760
uh novak you know the guy who does uh uh

2312
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:23,600
uh oh what's their show their super

2313
01:24:28,790 --> 01:24:25,040
popular

2314
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:28,800
show oh man um

2315
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:32,159
i hate when i forget i know yeah

2316
01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:34,000
secret teachings of all ages was the

2317
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:35,840
book i was trying to think of by the way

2318
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:38,800
oh okay go plug that back in so anyways

2319
01:24:42,629 --> 01:24:39,520
google

2320
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:42,639
who at the beginning the the running

2321
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:44,639
uh kind of whisper secret from the

2322
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:46,320
beginning with google is that they're

2323
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:46,960
nsa

2324
01:24:49,990 --> 01:24:48,719
right if there's these couple of really

2325
01:24:52,870 --> 01:24:50,000
smart kids who

2326
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:52,880
figured out this search algorithm that

2327
01:24:56,709 --> 01:24:53,840
was like

2328
01:24:58,870 --> 01:24:56,719
freaking next level and then immediately

2329
01:25:00,629 --> 01:24:58,880
drew the attention of

2330
01:25:01,830 --> 01:25:00,639
the people that are monitoring that

2331
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:01,840
stuff and they said okay we want to

2332
01:25:04,470 --> 01:25:03,040
piece that action you're going to go

2333
01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:04,480
forward you're going to be

2334
01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:06,000
you know at the time it wasn't

2335
01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:08,000
billionaire thing it was millionaire

2336
01:25:10,870 --> 01:25:08,639
thing

2337
01:25:11,830 --> 01:25:10,880
and but we're going to be kind of in

2338
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:11,840
that and then

2339
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:14,239
youtube and there's actually this famous

2340
01:25:17,189 --> 01:25:16,159
quote from the guys i don't know if this

2341
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:17,199
video is still out there

2342
01:25:21,990 --> 01:25:20,320
but the two kids who started youtube

2343
01:25:24,310 --> 01:25:22,000
and the day they're acquired they're

2344
01:25:25,830 --> 01:25:24,320
like well you know in typical

2345
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:25,840
you know you have to remember back at

2346
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:28,159
that kind of of the internet explosion

2347
01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:28,960
kind of thing where

2348
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:30,960
these kids are totally unqualified you

2349
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:32,800
know well i think it's going to be a

2350
01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:33,280
great

2351
01:25:38,709 --> 01:25:36,480
partnership between us and google

2352
01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:38,719
you know and we're the king of video and

2353
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:40,400
they're the king of search

2354
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,480
and it's like these two kids of course

2355
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:44,080
the next day are like

2356
01:25:48,470 --> 01:25:47,040
gone you know like hey here's your money

2357
01:25:50,149 --> 01:25:48,480
go do what you want but

2358
01:25:52,830 --> 01:25:50,159
you will not be a part of this going

2359
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:52,840
forward i just think it's so

2360
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:55,520
interesting that what you're adding to

2361
01:26:02,470 --> 01:25:58,560
that story freeman is that

2362
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:02,480
your videos immediately start being

2363
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:04,560
shadow banned and just in case

2364
01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:08,000
people don't know you know shadow ban

2365
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:11,920
is when you're banned to the world but

2366
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:13,840
no one is saying that you're banned to

2367
01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:16,000
the world no one you don't know it

2368
01:26:19,750 --> 01:26:18,080
the audience doesn't know it and the

2369
01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:19,760
only guy who knows it is some

2370
01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:23,360
ai bot manager in google who's playing

2371
01:26:26,229 --> 01:26:24,800
with the knobs you know behind the

2372
01:26:27,910 --> 01:26:26,239
curtain deciding

2373
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:27,920
what people see and don't see and for

2374
01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:29,360
the longest time you know i

2375
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:31,120
tell this story i mean i had a friend

2376
01:26:34,390 --> 01:26:32,719
because i was in tech you know and

2377
01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:34,400
selling my company and i knew a bunch of

2378
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:36,000
people in silicon valley and stuff

2379
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:38,560
like that and i would i kind of got wind

2380
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:39,840
of this and i would tell people

2381
01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:41,440
you know what about the shadow band what

2382
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:42,880
about the demonetization

2383
01:26:46,550 --> 01:26:44,400
which was the other thing they did you

2384
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:46,560
know without notice

2385
01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:50,000
and without any kind of recourse

2386
01:26:52,709 --> 01:26:51,440
you know people would have their videos

2387
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:52,719
just oh that one isn't making money

2388
01:26:55,669 --> 01:26:54,000
anymore what's what's going on

2389
01:26:57,990 --> 01:26:55,679
and it kind of is a psychological thing

2390
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:58,000
too it's like whoa you know what control

2391
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:58,560
do i have

2392
01:27:02,229 --> 01:27:00,719
but anyways when i talk to people in

2393
01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:02,239
silicon valley about that

2394
01:27:06,629 --> 01:27:04,080
they just couldn't even wrap their head

2395
01:27:09,270 --> 01:27:06,639
around that they would just be like no

2396
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:09,280
no because google had this there was

2397
01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:11,440
this whisper that they were nsa but at

2398
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:12,560
the same time

2399
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:14,639
there was this other just kind of you

2400
01:27:18,550 --> 01:27:16,400
know wrap the techie

2401
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:18,560
flag around it like this is the greatest

2402
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:19,840
thing and steve

2403
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:21,840
jobs and bill gates and you know we're

2404
01:27:25,669 --> 01:27:23,440
going to be part of this whole new

2405
01:27:27,189 --> 01:27:25,679
kind of thing and google's a part of

2406
01:27:27,590 --> 01:27:27,199
that and we're the good guys kind of

2407
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:27,600
thing

2408
01:27:34,229 --> 01:27:30,719
in with

2409
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:34,239
that story

2410
01:27:40,870 --> 01:27:37,760
and now i mean it's so funny i mean now

2411
01:27:43,590 --> 01:27:40,880
you wouldn't have any problem it's it's

2412
01:27:45,030 --> 01:27:43,600
in your face again back to the the point

2413
01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:45,040
i was making about like kind of the

2414
01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:46,320
occult thing is

2415
01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:48,639
i think the next level on the occult

2416
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:50,800
thing is to kind of rub it in somebody's

2417
01:27:54,229 --> 01:27:51,520
face

2418
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:54,239
i mean when you ban people you know you

2419
01:27:58,390 --> 01:27:57,040
ban the president of the united states

2420
01:28:00,310 --> 01:27:58,400
you know i mean or start putting

2421
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:00,320
warnings on his you know

2422
01:28:05,669 --> 01:28:03,360
you can't you can't i don't care what

2423
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:05,679
you feel about trump i got a whole

2424
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:08,639
lot of reservations with trump you know

2425
01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:09,440
i don't care

2426
01:28:13,030 --> 01:28:12,080
what you think no one back when you

2427
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:13,040
started your show

2428
01:28:18,229 --> 01:28:15,760
you know back at the turn of the century

2429
01:28:20,629 --> 01:28:18,239
or whenever

2430
01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:20,639
you people would have thought you were

2431
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:21,280
freaking

2432
01:28:28,070 --> 01:28:24,719
nuts if you did a freeman fly fry

2433
01:28:31,510 --> 01:28:28,080
freeman fly prediction saying oh yeah

2434
01:28:34,709 --> 01:28:31,520
and the president of the united states

2435
01:28:36,870 --> 01:28:34,719
will first be muzzled and

2436
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:36,880
kind of restricted in terms of what he

2437
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:38,480
has to what he could say

2438
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:41,040
he won't be covered by any of the news

2439
01:28:43,669 --> 01:28:42,239
organizations

2440
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:43,679
and then eventually he'll be banned

2441
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:45,760
while he's in office i mean if you would

2442
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:47,040
have predicted that

2443
01:28:51,110 --> 01:28:48,320
people would have just said you're

2444
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:51,120
freaking nuts but it was all

2445
01:28:54,550 --> 01:28:53,840
i guess where i was coming at is you

2446
01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:54,560
were the first

2447
01:28:58,390 --> 01:28:55,840
one of the first people to kind of

2448
01:29:00,709 --> 01:28:58,400
experience that with this kind of

2449
01:29:02,310 --> 01:29:00,719
shadow banning which you gotta put the

2450
01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:02,320
pieces together and say

2451
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:04,000
well that was always part of the

2452
01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:05,840
freaking plan right

2453
01:29:09,990 --> 01:29:09,280
yeah yeah and add to that that all my

2454
01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:10,000
videos were

2455
01:29:15,189 --> 01:29:13,199
monetized by youtube by google but i

2456
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:15,199
don't get any of that

2457
01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:17,360
like i didn't monetize my videos they

2458
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:18,239
did

2459
01:29:21,510 --> 01:29:20,320
so all the ads that have been on my

2460
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:21,520
videos since uh

2461
01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:24,719
you know 2005 uh

2462
01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:26,960
go to whoever gets them i don't know i

2463
01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:29,199
the the commercials you see on my videos

2464
01:29:32,390 --> 01:29:31,360
are not going to me

2465
01:29:34,229 --> 01:29:32,400
what do you mean what do you mean

2466
01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:34,239
process that on a really just kind of

2467
01:29:37,189 --> 01:29:35,360
base level

2468
01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:37,199
like you own the copyrights for those

2469
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:38,400
videos you uploaded

2470
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:40,719
oh or you uploaded them way back in the

2471
01:29:43,430 --> 01:29:42,000
day on google

2472
01:29:45,110 --> 01:29:43,440
and then google said well we'll just

2473
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:45,120
roll those into youtube

2474
01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:46,800
but those will just go into a separate

2475
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:48,880
bucket over here yeah we'll roll those

2476
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:50,880
into your youtube channel so they showed

2477
01:29:56,229 --> 01:29:52,880
up late and then

2478
01:29:59,590 --> 01:29:56,239
uh then they monetized them

2479
01:30:00,149 --> 01:29:59,600
uh but i don't kind of forgot to kind of

2480
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:00,159
connect

2481
01:30:04,229 --> 01:30:03,360
that little monetization with freeman's

2482
01:30:06,149 --> 01:30:04,239
account

2483
01:30:08,470 --> 01:30:06,159
yeah yeah and then i did eventually

2484
01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:08,480
monetize my videos

2485
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:11,120
and uh i was able to get enough money

2486
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:11,760
together

2487
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:14,000
by house things like that you know like

2488
01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:15,280
it you know

2489
01:30:19,030 --> 01:30:17,360
i didn't you know i got a down payment

2490
01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:19,040
but uh

2491
01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:22,080
then at that very moment they they

2492
01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:25,360
deleted all all my monetization and then

2493
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:27,199
they took alex jones down

2494
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:29,520
and at that same moment they came after

2495
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:30,400
me

2496
01:30:34,229 --> 01:30:33,440
so a number of my videos are gone uh a

2497
01:30:36,149 --> 01:30:34,239
lot of them

2498
01:30:38,470 --> 01:30:36,159
are gone and at first they had just

2499
01:30:40,390 --> 01:30:38,480
demonetized about ninety percent of my

2500
01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:40,400
videos then they just fully demonetized

2501
01:30:44,229 --> 01:30:42,719
me and then they gave me all the strikes

2502
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:44,239
uh right when they were taking alex

2503
01:30:49,510 --> 01:30:46,560
jones down they were also taking me down

2504
01:30:51,270 --> 01:30:49,520
but somehow i never got the third strike

2505
01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:51,280
uh i don't know what happened

2506
01:30:54,629 --> 01:30:53,280
maybe they just you know i don't know

2507
01:30:55,270 --> 01:30:54,639
maybe they didn't want to make me too

2508
01:30:57,669 --> 01:30:55,280
popular

2509
01:30:58,390 --> 01:30:57,679
by uh you know banning me and making me

2510
01:31:00,149 --> 01:30:58,400
known

2511
01:31:02,070 --> 01:31:00,159
so they just left me in the shadow band

2512
01:31:04,070 --> 01:31:02,080
realms they didn't they never gave me

2513
01:31:06,550 --> 01:31:04,080
the third strike

2514
01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:06,560
uh the irony is is that youtube was

2515
01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:08,719
started by two guys that wanted to see

2516
01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:10,800
janet jackson bearer breast at the super

2517
01:31:13,550 --> 01:31:11,760
bowl

2518
01:31:15,350 --> 01:31:13,560
which is in my second film

2519
01:31:17,110 --> 01:31:15,360
[Laughter]

2520
01:31:19,030 --> 01:31:17,120
and so the whole reason youtube was

2521
01:31:20,790 --> 01:31:19,040
built was because they could not find a

2522
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:20,800
video clip of janet jackson's

2523
01:31:26,390 --> 01:31:24,080
uh you know wardrobe malfunction

2524
01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:26,400
which was actually a high profile ritual

2525
01:31:30,629 --> 01:31:27,520
which i covered

2526
01:31:33,750 --> 01:31:30,639
uh in my second tv show about colombia

2527
01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:33,760
the goddess and uh so the irony is that

2528
01:31:40,790 --> 01:31:36,320
that's the whole reason youtube started

2529
01:31:42,790 --> 01:31:40,800
uh but see now okay so going back to

2530
01:31:43,990 --> 01:31:42,800
flat earth and how popular it got real

2531
01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:44,000
quick i'll throw this out

2532
01:31:48,070 --> 01:31:46,880
as a as an independent grassroots

2533
01:31:50,149 --> 01:31:48,080
filmmaker

2534
01:31:51,189 --> 01:31:50,159
and documentarian or whatever you want

2535
01:31:54,229 --> 01:31:51,199
to call me

2536
01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:54,239
um zeitgeist came out

2537
01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:55,600
right and it's like it's like i

2538
01:31:59,510 --> 01:31:57,600
immediately got millions and millions

2539
01:32:00,550 --> 01:31:59,520
and millions of views and i said no that

2540
01:32:03,669 --> 01:32:00,560
doesn't happen

2541
01:32:05,990 --> 01:32:03,679
right like i'm i'm i'm a grassroots

2542
01:32:08,149 --> 01:32:06,000
reporter on this information like i

2543
01:32:12,070 --> 01:32:08,159
started this conversation

2544
01:32:13,750 --> 01:32:12,080
and for them to suddenly just be on the

2545
01:32:15,669 --> 01:32:13,760
you know everybody was talking about

2546
01:32:16,629 --> 01:32:15,679
zeitgeist believe me it was a personal

2547
01:32:20,390 --> 01:32:16,639
insult

2548
01:32:22,950 --> 01:32:20,400
so when you know and it's all wrong

2549
01:32:24,070 --> 01:32:22,960
but as a matter of fact you know so

2550
01:32:26,149 --> 01:32:24,080
everything in there and then

2551
01:32:27,510 --> 01:32:26,159
zeitgeist final conclusion is that

2552
01:32:29,510 --> 01:32:27,520
humans are evil and need to be

2553
01:32:30,629 --> 01:32:29,520
controlled by ai but nobody seemed to

2554
01:32:33,830 --> 01:32:30,639
notice that

2555
01:32:36,470 --> 01:32:33,840
but eddie really said yeah yeah if you

2556
01:32:39,510 --> 01:32:36,480
get to zeitgeist 3

2557
01:32:39,990 --> 01:32:39,520
they announced the what is it the venus

2558
01:32:43,030 --> 01:32:40,000
project

2559
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:43,040
which venus is lucifer uh

2560
01:32:48,790 --> 01:32:45,600
the venus project down in florida yeah

2561
01:32:51,189 --> 01:32:48,800
yeah that's all zeitgeist oriented

2562
01:32:53,669 --> 01:32:51,199
and then they tell you actually humans

2563
01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:53,679
can't uh be trusted and everything needs

2564
01:32:56,709 --> 01:32:54,000
to go

2565
01:33:00,790 --> 01:32:56,719
under ai and robot control so that was

2566
01:33:02,870 --> 01:33:00,800
the zeitgeist finale in zeitgeist iii

2567
01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:02,880
but instantly when they were saying you

2568
01:33:06,550 --> 01:33:04,080
know when it was on

2569
01:33:08,070 --> 01:33:06,560
you know i was i was personally hurt by

2570
01:33:09,990 --> 01:33:08,080
everybody going to zeitgeist

2571
01:33:11,990 --> 01:33:10,000
and not knowing my work and i'm like

2572
01:33:13,910 --> 01:33:12,000
this can't be grassroots you know just

2573
01:33:15,830 --> 01:33:13,920
like flat earth it's like there's no way

2574
01:33:18,709 --> 01:33:15,840
it gets this popular this quick

2575
01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:18,719
as another example of that i put out the

2576
01:33:21,990 --> 01:33:19,120
whole

2577
01:33:23,990 --> 01:33:22,000
obama as a clone of akhenaten and i

2578
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:24,000
prove it to you over and over again with

2579
01:33:27,669 --> 01:33:26,800
imagery with the dna with everything now

2580
01:33:30,470 --> 01:33:27,679
i'm not saying

2581
01:33:32,790 --> 01:33:30,480
that i know that this is a fact because

2582
01:33:34,629 --> 01:33:32,800
i don't have barack obama's dna but if i

2583
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:34,639
had barack obama's dna

2584
01:33:38,629 --> 01:33:37,040
then i could prove it and i could prove

2585
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:38,639
everything that i've shown

2586
01:33:42,229 --> 01:33:40,960
about this to you know everything i did

2587
01:33:44,310 --> 01:33:42,239
show is true

2588
01:33:46,550 --> 01:33:44,320
and it just comes down to that one last

2589
01:33:47,910 --> 01:33:46,560
final factor for me to say that it's

2590
01:33:50,229 --> 01:33:47,920
absolutely true but

2591
01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:50,239
they have ochanatin's dna and if they

2592
01:33:55,270 --> 01:33:51,520
were going to clone

2593
01:33:56,709 --> 01:33:55,280
anyone it would be akhenaten

2594
01:33:58,070 --> 01:33:56,719
i got to pump the brakes on that until

2595
01:33:59,590 --> 01:33:58,080
we investigate it but i think there's a

2596
01:34:01,030 --> 01:33:59,600
whole bunch of different

2597
01:34:02,149 --> 01:34:01,040
you know the one thing i would just

2598
01:34:05,910 --> 01:34:02,159
interject and this might be a

2599
01:34:13,030 --> 01:34:09,110
in the extended realm of

2600
01:34:15,510 --> 01:34:13,040
you know how reality is created

2601
01:34:16,629 --> 01:34:15,520
and we're co-creators of that reality

2602
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:16,639
and there are also

2603
01:34:21,510 --> 01:34:19,760
kind of divisions in that reality

2604
01:34:23,910 --> 01:34:21,520
break offs in that reality you know an

2605
01:34:26,550 --> 01:34:23,920
et seems to be in that reality and then

2606
01:34:28,149 --> 01:34:26,560
lo and behold you know you take dmt and

2607
01:34:29,030 --> 01:34:28,159
they're in that reality into shamanic

2608
01:34:31,510 --> 01:34:29,040
reality

2609
01:34:32,629 --> 01:34:31,520
and then i just think there's a lot of

2610
01:34:35,189 --> 01:34:32,639
possibility

2611
01:34:36,470 --> 01:34:35,199
a lot of possible connections in terms

2612
01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:36,480
of

2613
01:34:43,830 --> 01:34:40,560
genetic engineering cloning

2614
01:34:45,590 --> 01:34:43,840
you know look into lulu and none on no i

2615
01:34:46,870 --> 01:34:45,600
i will and i i will but

2616
01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:46,880
when i heard that before i just think

2617
01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:49,679
that's going to be a little bit of a

2618
01:34:53,189 --> 01:34:52,400
of a moon shot to people and that's okay

2619
01:34:54,550 --> 01:34:53,199
i'm not trying

2620
01:34:56,709 --> 01:34:54,560
no i don't want to put i don't want to

2621
01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:56,719
kind of put out stop on that like oh my

2622
01:34:59,189 --> 01:34:57,520
god you know

2623
01:35:00,550 --> 01:34:59,199
it's the crazy line thing you know

2624
01:35:02,470 --> 01:35:00,560
that's my crazy line

2625
01:35:03,830 --> 01:35:02,480
don't go over that or i flush the whole

2626
01:35:06,070 --> 01:35:03,840
thing down the toilet

2627
01:35:07,990 --> 01:35:06,080
i'm just saying that might be one that

2628
01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:08,000
we could have a further

2629
01:35:12,470 --> 01:35:10,400
conversation on down the road because

2630
01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:12,480
the other thing that obama about obama

2631
01:35:17,750 --> 01:35:13,600
that seems

2632
01:35:20,790 --> 01:35:17,760
kind of undeniable is you know he's the

2633
01:35:23,270 --> 01:35:20,800
son of uh you know

2634
01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:23,280
teen what's the mtv show before you know

2635
01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:25,440
16 and pregnant or you know teen mom

2636
01:35:29,350 --> 01:35:26,560
kind of thing

2637
01:35:30,390 --> 01:35:29,360
this this rebellious teen mom whose dad

2638
01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:30,400
happens to be

2639
01:35:34,870 --> 01:35:32,880
freaking cia all over the place with

2640
01:35:36,550 --> 01:35:34,880
this furniture store you know all this

2641
01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:36,560
i'm just sharing it with the audience

2642
01:35:40,830 --> 01:35:38,880
you know oh i have these uh furniture

2643
01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:40,840
stores and i moved from

2644
01:35:44,470 --> 01:35:43,280
intelligence-based to intelligent space

2645
01:35:46,470 --> 01:35:44,480
around the country

2646
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:46,480
and i wind up in seattle and now my

2647
01:35:49,510 --> 01:35:48,480
daughter is totally rebelling so now i

2648
01:35:51,430 --> 01:35:49,520
move her to hawaii

2649
01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:51,440
and now she's really rebelling and she

2650
01:35:57,109 --> 01:35:54,719
goes gets knocked up by this

2651
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:57,119
communist guy is writing the communist

2652
01:36:01,669 --> 01:35:58,080
newspaper

2653
01:36:03,669 --> 01:36:01,679
who happens to be this black guy and

2654
01:36:05,109 --> 01:36:03,679
what do i do now you know i have to

2655
01:36:09,270 --> 01:36:05,119
create this story

2656
01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:09,280
of this african guy who really is the

2657
01:36:13,990 --> 01:36:10,800
father kind of thing i mean

2658
01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:14,000
that's my i think the evidence for that

2659
01:36:16,229 --> 01:36:15,679
if that's too much of a moon shot for

2660
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:16,239
people

2661
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:20,159
is just kind of overwhelming you know

2662
01:36:24,070 --> 01:36:20,880
but

2663
01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:24,080
uh so i i don't know i it to

2664
01:36:29,109 --> 01:36:27,840
me that i'll just i'll just leave

2665
01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:29,119
i'll just leave that and we'll we'll

2666
01:36:32,470 --> 01:36:31,440
talk obama sometime in in the future

2667
01:36:33,590 --> 01:36:32,480
that would be an interesting

2668
01:36:34,390 --> 01:36:33,600
conversation but you know where i'm

2669
01:36:37,990 --> 01:36:34,400
going with

2670
01:36:41,590 --> 01:36:38,000
with the with the whole thing

2671
01:36:43,910 --> 01:36:41,600
of obama's communist father right

2672
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:43,920
sure yeah yeah i told everybody he

2673
01:36:47,189 --> 01:36:45,199
wasn't going away

2674
01:36:49,350 --> 01:36:47,199
but my point wasn't more to prove that

2675
01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:49,360
obama was a clone at this moment

2676
01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:52,800
it was that if if

2677
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:55,360
you know we're looking at at flat earth

2678
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:57,360
i have as much evidence that obama's

2679
01:37:00,070 --> 01:36:59,199
clone i really thought that that would

2680
01:37:01,830 --> 01:37:00,080
take off i

2681
01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:01,840
really did i thought people would be

2682
01:37:05,669 --> 01:37:03,520
talking about it and

2683
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:05,679
and freaking out because if you see it

2684
01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:07,600
you you're like holy [\h__\h]

2685
01:37:10,950 --> 01:37:10,080
this is crazy you know this could be

2686
01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:10,960
real

2687
01:37:14,990 --> 01:37:13,360
and i expected it to at least be a part

2688
01:37:17,590 --> 01:37:15,000
of the conversation within the

2689
01:37:18,550 --> 01:37:17,600
conspiratorial realms but it didn't go

2690
01:37:20,470 --> 01:37:18,560
anywhere like

2691
01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:20,480
no one picked it up no one talked about

2692
01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:22,080
it and then next thing i know

2693
01:37:25,350 --> 01:37:23,280
they're all running around saying

2694
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:25,360
michelle's a man and you know now

2695
01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:29,280
that the story was completely lost uh

2696
01:37:33,510 --> 01:37:31,119
but if you look at the images that i

2697
01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:33,520
have of michelle and and queen t

2698
01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:35,440
uh akhenaten's mother and you look at

2699
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:37,840
obama and akhenaten and if you know the

2700
01:37:41,350 --> 01:37:39,440
history of akhenaten

2701
01:37:43,189 --> 01:37:41,360
then you would realize that this would

2702
01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:43,199
be what they would do if they had the

2703
01:37:47,030 --> 01:37:44,639
technology to do it

2704
01:37:49,510 --> 01:37:47,040
and just on one note here just as my own

2705
01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:49,520
little tooting of my horn

2706
01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:51,520
i was announcing this i was covering

2707
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:53,040
this on the show

2708
01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:56,639
uh for for a while and

2709
01:38:00,149 --> 01:37:58,960
i kept saying well you know the problem

2710
01:38:01,510 --> 01:38:00,159
is they've never

2711
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:01,520
actually admitted that they have

2712
01:38:05,709 --> 01:38:03,600
akhenaten like there's never

2713
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:05,719
they've never revealed the mystery of

2714
01:38:09,510 --> 01:38:07,199
kv-55

2715
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:09,520
uh the where they found king tut and

2716
01:38:12,790 --> 01:38:10,800
akhenaten's

2717
01:38:14,950 --> 01:38:12,800
mummies they've never actually said

2718
01:38:17,830 --> 01:38:14,960
whether they were akhenaten and queen t

2719
01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:17,840
and nefertiti and all of them and as i'm

2720
01:38:21,669 --> 01:38:18,480
doing this

2721
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:21,679
live on the air uh

2722
01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:24,719
they have a special on on giza and

2723
01:38:30,229 --> 01:38:28,159
there's the head of the giza plateaus

2724
01:38:32,149 --> 01:38:30,239
stating that he had the discovery

2725
01:38:35,350 --> 01:38:32,159
channel build a dna lab under

2726
01:38:37,750 --> 01:38:35,360
the the cairo museum and guess what

2727
01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:37,760
folks i have the dna of akhenaten and he

2728
01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:38,400
shows it

2729
01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:41,760
on camera and i'm like guys

2730
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,840
guys okay see now now one of the things

2731
01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:45,360
that that just

2732
01:38:49,270 --> 01:38:47,840
frustrates me is we're like an hour and

2733
01:38:53,350 --> 01:38:49,280
45 minutes into this

2734
01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:53,360
and if we no one's going to hear that

2735
01:38:57,590 --> 01:38:56,159
and and so like a discussion that i

2736
01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:57,600
think would be interesting and it's not

2737
01:39:01,109 --> 01:38:59,520
really my thing but it's enough of my

2738
01:39:01,830 --> 01:39:01,119
thing that you know i'm interested in it

2739
01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:01,840
is the

2740
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:05,440
the frank marshall davis versus

2741
01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:08,560
akhenaten cloning thing like that's a

2742
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:09,600
real discussion

2743
01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:12,719
that that you could have and again from

2744
01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:13,440
my world

2745
01:39:20,870 --> 01:39:17,199
it's like no it's a discussion that 90

2746
01:39:22,550 --> 01:39:20,880
of people will not even you know

2747
01:39:24,470 --> 01:39:22,560
i mean they can't wrap their head around

2748
01:39:28,550 --> 01:39:24,480
either one of those possibilities

2749
01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:28,560
but my point would be until we can

2750
01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:31,520
really hammer out uh both possibilities

2751
01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:32,560
you know

2752
01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:35,920
um we're not even in the game so can can

2753
01:39:40,629 --> 01:39:37,520
we just kind of

2754
01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:40,639
put that aside and let's commit to

2755
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:43,760
either on skeptico or on

2756
01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:47,040
freeman tv you know doing another

2757
01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:49,840
you know pulling like that one apart

2758
01:39:52,709 --> 01:39:50,159
because

2759
01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:52,719
i i still don't think that the the frank

2760
01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:55,119
marshall davis thing

2761
01:39:59,669 --> 01:39:58,400
really got played out to the fullest

2762
01:40:01,350 --> 01:39:59,679
either in terms of

2763
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:01,360
what that means or what that could

2764
01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:03,280
potentially mean so

2765
01:40:07,350 --> 01:40:05,440
you want to do that at some time sure

2766
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:07,360
yeah yeah we'll have to flip the script

2767
01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:08,080
and

2768
01:40:15,350 --> 01:40:12,000
but

2769
01:40:18,149 --> 01:40:15,360
just uh show how certain

2770
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:18,159
ideas are promoted like planet earth and

2771
01:40:22,870 --> 01:40:19,360
zeitgeist

2772
01:40:24,550 --> 01:40:22,880
and others aren't and um

2773
01:40:27,030 --> 01:40:24,560
well you know so so that would be kind

2774
01:40:28,149 --> 01:40:27,040
of the the a great topic because now you

2775
01:40:30,070 --> 01:40:28,159
got me on the

2776
01:40:31,270 --> 01:40:30,080
the venus thing is super interesting

2777
01:40:34,709 --> 01:40:31,280
because somebody just pointed

2778
01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:34,719
me to that the other day in terms of

2779
01:40:39,189 --> 01:40:36,000
their latest video

2780
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:39,199
on kovid very very nice

2781
01:40:42,709 --> 01:40:41,760
interesting very very cultish very very

2782
01:40:44,790 --> 01:40:42,719
you know

2783
01:40:46,790 --> 01:40:44,800
kind of crazy kind of lead you in and

2784
01:40:47,830 --> 01:40:46,800
then flip you kind of the classic kind

2785
01:40:51,189 --> 01:40:47,840
of cult thing

2786
01:40:55,669 --> 01:40:51,199
so you know next time it could be

2787
01:40:56,310 --> 01:40:55,679
the zeitgeist uh venus thing the obama

2788
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:56,320
thing

2789
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:58,080
and then there was one oh you know the

2790
01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:00,320
other thing that i think plays into that

2791
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:02,880
is uh the secret is another example

2792
01:41:07,510 --> 01:41:04,480
right god yeah

2793
01:41:10,709 --> 01:41:07,520
because the secret kind of takes off

2794
01:41:11,830 --> 01:41:10,719
in this kind of wacky way and then who's

2795
01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:11,840
behind it you know

2796
01:41:19,189 --> 01:41:15,040
jay-z knight who is just clearly

2797
01:41:20,950 --> 01:41:19,199
you know overtly colt you know and she's

2798
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:20,960
do you ever see her husband comes out

2799
01:41:23,590 --> 01:41:22,719
and kind of outs her and goes yeah man i

2800
01:41:25,430 --> 01:41:23,600
mean

2801
01:41:27,030 --> 01:41:25,440
she's smoking cigarettes behind the

2802
01:41:29,109 --> 01:41:27,040
stage you know before she goes on and

2803
01:41:31,030 --> 01:41:29,119
then puts on this

2804
01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:31,040
fake persona and does this fake

2805
01:41:34,149 --> 01:41:32,239
channeling but is it all

2806
01:41:35,669 --> 01:41:34,159
fake you know and then she's buying

2807
01:41:37,910 --> 01:41:35,679
these horses for like

2808
01:41:39,189 --> 01:41:37,920
300 and selling them for 30 thousand

2809
01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:39,199
dollars

2810
01:41:44,870 --> 01:41:42,400
oh this horse occupies

2811
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:44,880
is run by the spirit or is is holding

2812
01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:46,880
the spirit of the you know kind of thing

2813
01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:50,239
so i mean that's a whole other topic i

2814
01:41:54,950 --> 01:41:52,320
would love to get into with you

2815
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:54,960
cult thing because i think i think our

2816
01:42:01,990 --> 01:41:58,880
our inability to really process

2817
01:42:05,350 --> 01:42:02,000
how the cult thing

2818
01:42:08,709 --> 01:42:05,360
plays a part of plays a part

2819
01:42:09,990 --> 01:42:08,719
in this is it's just

2820
01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:10,000
it's just really interesting because

2821
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:11,520
because like the mkhitaryan is not one

2822
01:43:19,750 --> 01:42:11,920
minute

2823
01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:23,350
okay i'm back hey great

2824
01:43:28,310 --> 01:43:26,320
so we ought to try and move towards uh

2825
01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:28,320
towards wrapping it up but i'm writing

2826
01:43:33,590 --> 01:43:29,920
down

2827
01:43:34,709 --> 01:43:33,600
there's i i did remember this let me get

2828
01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:34,719
this in there because i've been dying to

2829
01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:37,199
get this in and i'd love to talk

2830
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:39,040
more about it next time this is maybe a

2831
01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:40,960
little bit out of your wheelhouse but

2832
01:43:44,709 --> 01:43:43,600
i think it's kind of fun to bring other

2833
01:43:46,470 --> 01:43:44,719
stuff to people

2834
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:46,480
and then see how they process it in

2835
01:43:50,390 --> 01:43:48,400
because you have this deep knowledge

2836
01:43:52,390 --> 01:43:50,400
base and maybe you'll connect but

2837
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:52,400
you know where i was going with the the

2838
01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:53,760
i thought we had fun talking about the

2839
01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:54,400
youtube

2840
01:43:58,950 --> 01:43:56,800
google thing because people forget so

2841
01:44:01,990 --> 01:43:58,960
much that stuff and then you added

2842
01:44:04,390 --> 01:44:02,000
the you know the ritual thing with

2843
01:44:05,990 --> 01:44:04,400
uh wardrobe malfunction first i heard

2844
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:06,000
that was from chris knowles have you had

2845
01:44:09,990 --> 01:44:07,440
chris knowles on your show

2846
01:44:11,590 --> 01:44:10,000
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so chris is great

2847
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:11,600
he's been on my show multiple times

2848
01:44:16,149 --> 01:44:13,920
he was the first guy i heard talk about

2849
01:44:16,470 --> 01:44:16,159
that talk about that specific incident

2850
01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:16,480
but

2851
01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:19,199
i'm sure you covered it really well too

2852
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:20,480
but

2853
01:44:24,229 --> 01:44:22,320
those youtube guys that's an interesting

2854
01:44:24,950 --> 01:44:24,239
connection the other thing i guess i was

2855
01:44:27,109 --> 01:44:24,960
gonna bring up is

2856
01:44:28,229 --> 01:44:27,119
uh the no agenda i was thinking of john

2857
01:44:29,910 --> 01:44:28,239
devorak you know

2858
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:29,920
he's got that super popular show no

2859
01:44:32,629 --> 01:44:31,360
agenda and

2860
01:44:34,149 --> 01:44:32,639
i feel like i don't want to shoot on

2861
01:44:35,189 --> 01:44:34,159
dvorak because he's great you know he's

2862
01:44:37,030 --> 01:44:35,199
great great great guy

2863
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:37,040
super great guy and i love his his whole

2864
01:44:40,310 --> 01:44:38,880
thing but the guy has been so

2865
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:40,320
wrong if you follow the history he's

2866
01:44:42,709 --> 01:44:42,080
been so wrong about tech you know like

2867
01:44:45,030 --> 01:44:42,719
iphone

2868
01:44:46,870 --> 01:44:45,040
he was like oh man there's no way

2869
01:44:47,990 --> 01:44:46,880
there's no when it first came out he's

2870
01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:48,000
like oh then iphone

2871
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:50,080
two iphone three no not the same

2872
01:44:51,990 --> 01:44:51,520
everything and the same thing with

2873
01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:52,000
youtube

2874
01:44:55,510 --> 01:44:54,800
he's like you no man this costs so much

2875
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:55,520
money

2876
01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:57,840
to the band with you know putting these

2877
01:45:01,030 --> 01:44:58,880
so it just

2878
01:45:02,470 --> 01:45:01,040
is a touch point for me for a guy who's

2879
01:45:06,070 --> 01:45:02,480
been in tech you know

2880
01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:07,910
same old thing you know who are the

2881
01:45:12,390 --> 01:45:10,560
experts and who are the real people

2882
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:12,400
who know who are kind of behind this

2883
01:45:14,870 --> 01:45:13,760
thing but the other thing i was just

2884
01:45:16,950 --> 01:45:14,880
going to throw out is

2885
01:45:18,950 --> 01:45:16,960
a topic potentially to talk about next

2886
01:45:19,750 --> 01:45:18,960
time is bill gates because i always hear

2887
01:45:22,149 --> 01:45:19,760
this thing about

2888
01:45:23,189 --> 01:45:22,159
how bill gates was you know ushered in

2889
01:45:25,750 --> 01:45:23,199
and stuff like that

2890
01:45:28,149 --> 01:45:25,760
man i lived through that bill gates got

2891
01:45:30,950 --> 01:45:28,159
a huge leg up because his mom

2892
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:30,960
was you know super connected with the

2893
01:45:35,030 --> 01:45:33,040
president of ibm and he gets the meeting

2894
01:45:36,550 --> 01:45:35,040
and he gets in there and he scams them

2895
01:45:38,229 --> 01:45:36,560
into their not scams him there because

2896
01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:38,239
bill gates was a really good programmer

2897
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:39,360
people forget that

2898
01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:41,760
i mean he was ripping people off playing

2899
01:45:45,750 --> 01:45:43,679
black playing poker at harvard

2900
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,760
but the kid could sling code i mean he

2901
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:47,280
was kind of this oz

2902
01:45:50,950 --> 01:45:49,360
asperger kind of guy who could really

2903
01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:50,960
write code and even if he took other

2904
01:45:54,790 --> 01:45:52,239
people's code and

2905
01:45:56,550 --> 01:45:54,800
rewrote it for its purpose there's a

2906
01:45:58,229 --> 01:45:56,560
frick of a talent and doing that you

2907
01:45:59,030 --> 01:45:58,239
know it ain't easy i see a program you

2908
01:46:01,189 --> 01:45:59,040
can't just

2909
01:46:02,310 --> 01:46:01,199
take somebody's code and rewrite it and

2910
01:46:04,709 --> 01:46:02,320
make it you know

2911
01:46:05,830 --> 01:46:04,719
acceptable to ibm but the thing i always

2912
01:46:09,109 --> 01:46:05,840
remind people of is

2913
01:46:12,310 --> 01:46:09,119
with ibm is ibm got

2914
01:46:15,030 --> 01:46:12,320
hip to the fact that they might lose

2915
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:15,040
the keys to the kingdom in their

2916
01:46:19,030 --> 01:46:16,560
relationship with microsoft

2917
01:46:20,229 --> 01:46:19,040
early on so you know there's the dos

2918
01:46:21,910 --> 01:46:20,239
thing the old

2919
01:46:24,790 --> 01:46:21,920
computer screen with the little green

2920
01:46:27,270 --> 01:46:24,800
letters on it and then it's all going to

2921
01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:27,280
uh you know a graphic user interface

2922
01:46:31,270 --> 01:46:28,000
like

2923
01:46:33,109 --> 01:46:31,280
apple had and ibm and windows

2924
01:46:34,629 --> 01:46:33,119
or microsoft saw that they had to copy

2925
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:34,639
and they came up with windows

2926
01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:37,679
but it was nip and tuck there of there

2927
01:46:41,030 --> 01:46:38,400
was

2928
01:46:42,070 --> 01:46:41,040
really microsoft with windows they

2929
01:46:43,990 --> 01:46:42,080
weren't going to make it

2930
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:44,000
and the way they make it is with the

2931
01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:45,360
total cluj

2932
01:46:49,270 --> 01:46:47,520
you know balmer who's the ceo of

2933
01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:49,280
microsoft hires this

2934
01:46:52,629 --> 01:46:51,520
intern over the summer and he figures

2935
01:46:56,310 --> 01:46:52,639
out this really

2936
01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:56,320
cluj klugey kludgy way to make windows

2937
01:47:02,390 --> 01:46:59,920
work in a way that what was uh ibm

2938
01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:02,400
software os you even forget about it now

2939
01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:04,159
but they have the competing

2940
01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:06,400
operating system there so this is

2941
01:47:11,830 --> 01:47:08,480
totally geeky stuff

2942
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:11,840
but the way it kind of connects i think

2943
01:47:18,149 --> 01:47:15,040
is in a way freeman

2944
01:47:20,709 --> 01:47:18,159
it kind of connects with where we

2945
01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:20,719
started on this whole thing

2946
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:23,760
is that one of the mistakes i think we

2947
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:24,960
make

2948
01:47:34,790 --> 01:47:30,239
is not processing everyone's experience

2949
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:34,800
as being a spiritual experience

2950
01:47:38,310 --> 01:47:36,159
because everyone's experience is a

2951
01:47:39,990 --> 01:47:38,320
spiritual experience i don't know what

2952
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:40,000
the [\h__\h] bill gates is doing

2953
01:47:43,510 --> 01:47:41,600
i don't know what kind of child porn he

2954
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:43,520
has on his computer and why he does that

2955
01:47:47,350 --> 01:47:44,080
and

2956
01:47:49,109 --> 01:47:47,360
what motivates him but i know he's a

2957
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:49,119
spiritual being

2958
01:47:54,709 --> 01:47:52,800
living in this kind of biological robot

2959
01:47:58,310 --> 01:47:54,719
existence and he's in the soup

2960
01:48:01,590 --> 01:47:58,320
every day just like i am and

2961
01:48:05,590 --> 01:48:01,600
to forget that i think

2962
01:48:08,870 --> 01:48:05,600
i think we run the risk of kind of

2963
01:48:12,149 --> 01:48:08,880
forgetting our real

2964
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:12,159
uh both power and responsibility

2965
01:48:15,669 --> 01:48:14,320
in this whole thing in terms of how

2966
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:15,679
we're supposed to be how we're supposed

2967
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:17,280
to be that

2968
01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:20,800
kind of shining divine being that sits

2969
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:21,520
in the chair

2970
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:24,320
because everyone just sees that that's

2971
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:27,600
where you belong you know what i mean

2972
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:28,770
i think so

2973
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:30,960
[Laughter]

2974
01:48:34,470 --> 01:48:33,760
well i i think it to me it goes back to

2975
01:48:37,830 --> 01:48:34,480
the fear

2976
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:37,840
thing you know it's that

2977
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:40,880
when i hear people talk about uh bill

2978
01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:41,840
gates

2979
01:48:48,950 --> 01:48:45,040
nowadays and what he's doing

2980
01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:48,960
i mean he is being literally demonized

2981
01:48:55,510 --> 01:48:52,159
which in a way might be

2982
01:48:57,189 --> 01:48:55,520
accurate in a way that we don't fully

2983
01:48:59,510 --> 01:48:57,199
understand

2984
01:49:01,030 --> 01:48:59,520
and i'm open to that possibility and i

2985
01:49:04,629 --> 01:49:01,040
think that has to be factored

2986
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:04,639
into you know the possibility

2987
01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:06,880
right i think we make a real mistake if

2988
01:49:11,910 --> 01:49:08,239
we don't see him

2989
01:49:12,629 --> 01:49:11,920
also as somebody who's trying to figure

2990
01:49:14,790 --> 01:49:12,639
the whole

2991
01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:14,800
thing out in terms of their relationship

2992
01:49:18,229 --> 01:49:16,080
to

2993
01:49:19,589 --> 01:49:18,239
you know whatever that whatever happens

2994
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:19,599
after we die

2995
01:49:23,750 --> 01:49:21,119
whatever happens in the extended

2996
01:49:28,950 --> 01:49:23,760
consciousness realm whatever happens

2997
01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:28,960
in all this other stuff

2998
01:49:31,990 --> 01:49:30,480
i'm still not i'm still not hitting

2999
01:49:36,550 --> 01:49:32,000
anything you really can

3000
01:49:39,589 --> 01:49:36,560
latch onto huh well i'm i'm comparing it

3001
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:39,599
and and understanding yes

3002
01:49:44,310 --> 01:49:42,880
that everybody believes they are doing

3003
01:49:46,950 --> 01:49:44,320
the right thing

3004
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:46,960
see i wouldn't say that i i'm not saying

3005
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:48,880
that i'm not saying that

3006
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:51,840
i think some people think that they're

3007
01:49:56,470 --> 01:49:52,480
doing

3008
01:49:59,430 --> 01:49:56,480
evil and they don't really know quite

3009
01:50:00,229 --> 01:49:59,440
how to get out of it you know if you

3010
01:50:02,950 --> 01:50:00,239
just go watch

3011
01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:02,960
because i just wrote my book why evil

3012
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:04,000
matters you know

3013
01:50:07,189 --> 01:50:05,840
and uh how science and religion fumbled

3014
01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:07,199
a big one and the premise of the book is

3015
01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:08,239
that

3016
01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:10,400
science just denies evil they say oh

3017
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:11,840
well it's just a moral construct because

3018
01:50:13,910 --> 01:50:12,719
you can't have evil because you don't

3019
01:50:16,229 --> 01:50:13,920
even have consciousness

3020
01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:16,239
you know you're just your life is

3021
01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:17,679
meaningless you're just a biological

3022
01:50:22,550 --> 01:50:19,440
robot so science is like

3023
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:22,560
so but i think that's psyop but

3024
01:50:26,229 --> 01:50:24,800
that's kind of a whole other discussion

3025
01:50:27,750 --> 01:50:26,239
and then you have religion who says oh

3026
01:50:28,870 --> 01:50:27,760
no i'll tell you exactly what evil is

3027
01:50:30,950 --> 01:50:28,880
you know it's

3028
01:50:32,229 --> 01:50:30,960
right here in this little book and i

3029
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:32,239
will be the

3030
01:50:35,589 --> 01:50:34,400
intermediary of telling you what it is

3031
01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:35,599
and what it is

3032
01:50:40,070 --> 01:50:38,560
and all that stuff all that stuff

3033
01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:40,080
doesn't work

3034
01:50:43,669 --> 01:50:42,480
if you really analyze it but what i

3035
01:50:45,910 --> 01:50:43,679
think

3036
01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:45,920
you know back to the the ted bundy thing

3037
01:50:48,950 --> 01:50:47,360
you know the one thing you can watch on

3038
01:50:52,390 --> 01:50:48,960
netflix well there's two things

3039
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:52,400
one you can watch uh leslie kane's

3040
01:50:59,589 --> 01:50:56,880
uh [\h__\h] unbelievable top five netflix

3041
01:51:01,910 --> 01:50:59,599
series documentary on surviving death

3042
01:51:04,390 --> 01:51:01,920
and i just had around the show

3043
01:51:05,350 --> 01:51:04,400
it's an incredibly well done you know

3044
01:51:07,669 --> 01:51:05,360
reincarnation

3045
01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:07,679
past life regression stuff but you know

3046
01:51:11,910 --> 01:51:09,760
also near-death experience it's it's

3047
01:51:12,629 --> 01:51:11,920
spectacular it's great it's all the rest

3048
01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:12,639
of that

3049
01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:16,560
but i digress slightly because

3050
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:20,000
you go watch ted bundy and ted bundy

3051
01:51:25,510 --> 01:51:23,040
is kind of a weird kid

3052
01:51:26,870 --> 01:51:25,520
who you know but is just kind of weird

3053
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:26,880
in a normal way

3054
01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:28,960
and then he has this kind of weird

3055
01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:30,719
sexual obsession

3056
01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:34,000
and he says himself that he

3057
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:37,679
just kind of scratched

3058
01:51:45,510 --> 01:51:42,000
the itch in a way that invited in

3059
01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:45,520
something evil for lack of a better word

3060
01:51:49,189 --> 01:51:48,639
and how that thing became greater and

3061
01:51:54,149 --> 01:51:49,199
greater

3062
01:51:56,470 --> 01:51:54,159
kind of took over

3063
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:56,480
so this is and this is under reported

3064
01:52:01,109 --> 01:51:58,239
you know you can it's right there

3065
01:52:01,990 --> 01:52:01,119
in netflix but it's a it's they try and

3066
01:52:04,870 --> 01:52:02,000
squeeze it out

3067
01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:04,880
completely so there's an extended realm

3068
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:05,840
there

3069
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:09,840
that is that my read of it is that

3070
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:12,159
it's still the divine being in there i

3071
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:13,520
mean ted bundy

3072
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:17,360
still has a soul but it's just being so

3073
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:21,040
clouded and distorted and compromised

3074
01:52:25,189 --> 01:52:23,920
by this other energy however we're to

3075
01:52:26,709 --> 01:52:25,199
understand that i'm not saying i

3076
01:52:29,189 --> 01:52:26,719
understand any of that stuff

3077
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:29,199
but that seems to be consistently what

3078
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:30,480
what's being reported

3079
01:52:35,270 --> 01:52:34,480
is that so now now maybe it makes sense

3080
01:52:38,629 --> 01:52:35,280
to say

3081
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:38,639
you know bill gates yeah i mean there's

3082
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:39,040
some

3083
01:52:42,870 --> 01:52:40,800
darkness there that we can't quite

3084
01:52:45,030 --> 01:52:42,880
figure out but i think we have to

3085
01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:45,040
approach it from the standpoint of

3086
01:52:48,550 --> 01:52:46,800
well we don't understand the darkness we

3087
01:52:51,990 --> 01:52:48,560
don't understand why he's

3088
01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:52,000
uh doing what he does rather than get

3089
01:52:55,189 --> 01:52:52,400
all

3090
01:52:55,510 --> 01:52:55,199
indignant on in the fact that he's doing

3091
01:53:01,910 --> 01:52:55,520
it

3092
01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:01,920
earlier in that you said hey we don't

3093
01:53:06,310 --> 01:53:03,520
know what this is going to bring

3094
01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:06,320
you know we just have to be open to you

3095
01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:07,360
know

3096
01:53:15,109 --> 01:53:12,159
a larger uh plan or just a larger

3097
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:15,119
ride on the in the river that we can't

3098
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:17,520
really control

3099
01:53:20,790 --> 01:53:20,320
does any of that resonate with you yeah

3100
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:20,800
yeah

3101
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:22,560
and you made me think of james holmes in

3102
01:53:27,990 --> 01:53:24,400
the aurora shooting like he had

3103
01:53:30,310 --> 01:53:28,000
a very similar uh story of not knowing

3104
01:53:33,109 --> 01:53:30,320
what had taken over him

3105
01:53:34,550 --> 01:53:33,119
and uh that came from his cellmate of

3106
01:53:36,709 --> 01:53:34,560
course we didn't get any of the

3107
01:53:38,390 --> 01:53:36,719
story from ebstein's cellmate since he

3108
01:53:42,629 --> 01:53:38,400
died of covid

3109
01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:42,639
but um yeah or like the officer who was

3110
01:53:47,669 --> 01:53:43,440
in charge of

3111
01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:47,679
uh security at the capitol

3112
01:53:51,589 --> 01:53:49,840
right right committed suicide right we

3113
01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:51,599
never get to those answers

3114
01:53:57,990 --> 01:53:55,920
um but yeah uh

3115
01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:58,000
yes uh there's a lot of thought in that

3116
01:54:01,430 --> 01:53:59,040
and there's a lot of

3117
01:54:02,629 --> 01:54:01,440
to do with magic in the gregors and

3118
01:54:04,910 --> 01:54:02,639
thought forums that

3119
01:54:06,390 --> 01:54:04,920
are able to take over if you consider

3120
01:54:08,229 --> 01:54:06,400
freemasonry

3121
01:54:10,550 --> 01:54:08,239
and that uh you know since at least

3122
01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:10,560
1700s or you can go back to even the

3123
01:54:14,149 --> 01:54:12,719
1100s if you wish to go all the way back

3124
01:54:15,270 --> 01:54:14,159
to the templar and everything in their

3125
01:54:19,189 --> 01:54:15,280
rituals

3126
01:54:22,229 --> 01:54:19,199
performed

3127
01:54:24,870 --> 01:54:22,239
over and over and over and over again in

3128
01:54:26,950 --> 01:54:24,880
every lodge across the planet

3129
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:26,960
and these same old men getting up on

3130
01:54:29,910 --> 01:54:27,920
their altars

3131
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:29,920
and swearing to the light and doing

3132
01:54:38,229 --> 01:54:37,109
has to be in putting in a gregor or

3133
01:54:40,870 --> 01:54:38,239
thought form magic

3134
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:40,880
into them that then can you know start

3135
01:54:44,790 --> 01:54:42,719
to rise inside of them

3136
01:54:46,070 --> 01:54:44,800
and i even think this about my dad and

3137
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:46,080
his silence

3138
01:54:49,910 --> 01:54:47,840
uh that there was something else that

3139
01:54:51,589 --> 01:54:49,920
was in there that have been placed

3140
01:54:53,109 --> 01:54:51,599
in there and then if you add that to

3141
01:54:55,910 --> 01:54:53,119
trauma-based mind control

3142
01:54:57,030 --> 01:54:55,920
another layer where you're physically uh

3143
01:55:00,070 --> 01:54:57,040
inserting this

3144
01:55:01,750 --> 01:55:00,080
entity or evil into the being

3145
01:55:03,430 --> 01:55:01,760
then you've got a whole another level

3146
01:55:03,669 --> 01:55:03,440
that's when you get to like james holmes

3147
01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:03,679
and

3148
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:08,480
over to the dark side

3149
01:55:13,109 --> 01:55:11,280
but yeah the idea of of these rituals

3150
01:55:14,870 --> 01:55:13,119
that are constantly performed in the

3151
01:55:16,870 --> 01:55:14,880
exact same fashion they have to make

3152
01:55:18,550 --> 01:55:16,880
sure they're always exactly the same i

3153
01:55:20,550 --> 01:55:18,560
have a friend who's a mason that

3154
01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:20,560
it's his job to go make sure each of the

3155
01:55:25,030 --> 01:55:22,400
temples are actually doing it

3156
01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:25,040
in the exact same fashion and for

3157
01:55:28,470 --> 01:55:26,239
thousands of years

3158
01:55:30,950 --> 01:55:28,480
men have said these words and cast these

3159
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:30,960
spells and and said these things

3160
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:33,119
and it's got to have some sort of

3161
01:55:38,229 --> 01:55:35,119
thought for magic a gregor

3162
01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:38,239
type of uh

3163
01:55:43,270 --> 01:55:42,239
you know entity attached to it

3164
01:55:44,950 --> 01:55:43,280
yeah and then you go over to the

3165
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:44,960
buddhist and they go oh yeah that's a

3166
01:55:47,109 --> 01:55:45,520
tulpa

3167
01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:47,119
you know that's totally yeah exactly

3168
01:55:50,870 --> 01:55:48,880
different name for the same thing

3169
01:55:52,790 --> 01:55:50,880
exactly when you have cultures so

3170
01:55:53,910 --> 01:55:52,800
divided that kind of come to the same

3171
01:55:55,750 --> 01:55:53,920
conclusion

3172
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,760
and then you have you know all that

3173
01:56:00,950 --> 01:55:57,040
evidence

3174
01:56:02,310 --> 01:56:00,960
of stuff that

3175
01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:02,320
you know people think they're channeling

3176
01:56:05,350 --> 01:56:04,080
an entity and the institute's giving

3177
01:56:08,229 --> 01:56:05,360
real information and then

3178
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:08,239
poof you know there's nothing there

3179
01:56:12,950 --> 01:56:09,520
historically you know

3180
01:56:16,149 --> 01:56:12,960
all that things hey we ought to uh

3181
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:16,159
it's been awesome man yeah it was this

3182
01:56:20,149 --> 01:56:18,320
is a reversal

3183
01:56:22,390 --> 01:56:20,159
i'm gonna have to do the intro now at

3184
01:56:24,310 --> 01:56:22,400
the end

3185
01:56:26,470 --> 01:56:24,320
we're gonna have to do the intro at the

3186
01:56:28,070 --> 01:56:26,480
end that'll be great because we'll have

3187
01:56:31,350 --> 01:56:28,080
to do this

3188
01:56:33,990 --> 01:56:31,360
am

3189
01:56:35,189 --> 01:56:34,000
like so totally into your show now and

3190
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:35,199
it's like

3191
01:56:38,629 --> 01:56:37,199
i i feel like a gift you know when you

3192
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:38,639
find a new show

3193
01:56:42,709 --> 01:56:40,800
like this for me and you go oh my god

3194
01:56:44,709 --> 01:56:42,719
there's all this content out there i

3195
01:56:46,629 --> 01:56:44,719
could let go pick and choose and hear

3196
01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:46,639
all this great stuff so

3197
01:56:51,830 --> 01:56:49,920
sorry i didn't know all this fantastic

3198
01:56:55,189 --> 01:56:51,840
stuff that was out there and i just

3199
01:56:56,709 --> 01:56:55,199
i just kind of knew you as this figure i

3200
01:56:57,750 --> 01:56:56,719
didn't know the content so i'm super

3201
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:57,760
excited to go

3202
01:57:00,420 --> 01:56:59,520
dig into more of these interviews yeah

3203
01:57:01,830 --> 01:57:00,430
and i'm used to it

3204
01:57:04,550 --> 01:57:01,840
[Laughter]

3205
01:57:06,070 --> 01:57:04,560
um i would highly recommend going to my

3206
01:57:08,870 --> 01:57:06,080
youtube page to start

3207
01:57:10,149 --> 01:57:08,880
instead of freemantv.com i used to have

3208
01:57:11,430 --> 01:57:10,159
all the videos on the website but it was

3209
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:11,440
causing issues but

3210
01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:14,320
um if you go to the youtube channel

3211
01:57:19,270 --> 01:57:16,000
freeman tv

3212
01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:19,280
then use the playlists and so start with

3213
01:57:23,270 --> 01:57:21,599
the tv show because that's my very first

3214
01:57:24,629 --> 01:57:23,280
presentation and you can follow through

3215
01:57:27,270 --> 01:57:24,639
the tv shows

3216
01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:27,280
and then go through my lectures now the

3217
01:57:31,750 --> 01:57:29,920
reason you have to use the playlists

3218
01:57:34,149 --> 01:57:31,760
is because i'm not allowed to put my own

3219
01:57:35,669 --> 01:57:34,159
videos on youtube so i have to take them

3220
01:57:37,510 --> 01:57:35,679
from other people that have uploaded

3221
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:37,520
them and put them in the playlist

3222
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:39,119
because they're not allowed on my

3223
01:57:43,830 --> 01:57:41,040
channel like aliens from hell

3224
01:57:45,109 --> 01:57:43,840
i highly recommend it aliens from hell

3225
01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:45,119
write that down

3226
01:57:51,430 --> 01:57:48,320
aliens from hell it's my epic it's my

3227
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:51,440
magnum opus it was my final hurrah to

3228
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:52,400
the world

3229
01:57:57,030 --> 01:57:55,360
i haven't done a lecture since uh well

3230
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:57,040
actually i did i did one more but

3231
01:58:00,070 --> 01:57:59,679
uh that was my my magnum opus right

3232
01:58:02,310 --> 01:58:00,080
there

3233
01:58:03,189 --> 01:58:02,320
and i'm not allowed to put it on youtube

3234
01:58:07,830 --> 01:58:03,199
so

3235
01:58:09,750 --> 01:58:07,840
my videos download them and upload them

3236
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:09,760
to your channel because i want them out

3237
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:10,480
there

3238
01:58:15,030 --> 01:58:13,040
but uh aliens from hell is only in the

3239
01:58:16,070 --> 01:58:15,040
playlist because i can't have it on my

3240
01:58:18,950 --> 01:58:16,080
actual channel

3241
01:58:20,470 --> 01:58:18,960
and then for you specifically alex uh

3242
01:58:23,990 --> 01:58:20,480
jerry marzinski

3243
01:58:25,910 --> 01:58:24,000
is somebody yeah yeah you know okay

3244
01:58:27,910 --> 01:58:25,920
because we've had him on a couple of

3245
01:58:31,510 --> 01:58:27,920
times maybe even three times

3246
01:58:34,870 --> 01:58:31,520
and uh wow what's what amazing stories

3247
01:58:36,870 --> 01:58:34,880
yes and you know the the

3248
01:58:38,390 --> 01:58:36,880
did you get to the point in marzinski

3249
01:58:41,510 --> 01:58:38,400
with the guy who's

3250
01:58:45,669 --> 01:58:41,520
directed to go to a field

3251
01:58:46,629 --> 01:58:45,679
yeah tell people tell me what i'm trying

3252
01:58:51,189 --> 01:58:46,639
to remember

3253
01:58:54,790 --> 01:58:51,199
sorry he's remind me he like uh

3254
01:58:58,629 --> 01:58:54,800
he's a convict he's on the run from

3255
01:59:00,470 --> 01:58:58,639
the either the police or you know

3256
01:59:02,629 --> 01:59:00,480
it's i can't remember the details of how

3257
01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:02,639
it starts he either breaks out of prison

3258
01:59:05,990 --> 01:59:04,480
or he's on the run you know there's like

3259
01:59:07,750 --> 01:59:06,000
the lights in the background and stuff

3260
01:59:10,709 --> 01:59:07,760
like that so he hides

3261
01:59:11,350 --> 01:59:10,719
in the voice because marzinski's whole

3262
01:59:14,830 --> 01:59:11,360
point

3263
01:59:16,870 --> 01:59:14,840
is that he works as a forensic

3264
01:59:20,149 --> 01:59:16,880
psychologist in

3265
01:59:22,709 --> 01:59:20,159
uh arizona prison system

3266
01:59:23,990 --> 01:59:22,719
for like 20 years and so he's dealing

3267
01:59:25,830 --> 01:59:24,000
with all these people come in

3268
01:59:27,990 --> 01:59:25,840
i'm hearing voices okay you're

3269
01:59:30,550 --> 01:59:28,000
schizophrenic and here's what you do

3270
01:59:31,109 --> 01:59:30,560
no i'm really hearing voices voices you

3271
01:59:33,270 --> 01:59:31,119
know

3272
01:59:34,709 --> 01:59:33,280
so at some point he wakes up and he goes

3273
01:59:35,669 --> 01:59:34,719
wow what if these people really are

3274
01:59:37,589 --> 01:59:35,679
hearing voices

3275
01:59:39,430 --> 01:59:37,599
so he goes next level and starts hearing

3276
01:59:40,950 --> 01:59:39,440
these stories and this one guy

3277
01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:40,960
the one that i'm telling you the story i

3278
01:59:46,790 --> 01:59:43,360
thought was incredible

3279
01:59:48,709 --> 01:59:46,800
this guy goes okay so like he's he's a

3280
01:59:49,750 --> 01:59:48,719
convict an escape convict he's running

3281
01:59:51,589 --> 01:59:49,760
from the police

3282
01:59:53,510 --> 01:59:51,599
he doesn't know where he's going he's

3283
01:59:57,270 --> 01:59:53,520
directed

3284
01:59:59,669 --> 01:59:57,280
by the voice to go to a particular field

3285
02:00:01,510 --> 01:59:59,679
and then like turn right go a mile then

3286
02:00:04,870 --> 02:00:01,520
go into this corn field

3287
02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:04,880
and then right there is

3288
02:00:09,430 --> 02:00:07,840
cocaine not like a little bit of cocaine

3289
02:00:12,550 --> 02:00:09,440
like a freaking

3290
02:00:13,750 --> 02:00:12,560
you know bushel fall from the sky narco

3291
02:00:17,589 --> 02:00:13,760
kind of thing

3292
02:00:19,030 --> 02:00:17,599
cocaine so i mean how do you process

3293
02:00:21,030 --> 02:00:19,040
that what you know we're talking about

3294
02:00:21,510 --> 02:00:21,040
you know demons or some other entity or

3295
02:00:25,189 --> 02:00:21,520
some

3296
02:00:26,950 --> 02:00:25,199
you know directs this guy to go

3297
02:00:29,109 --> 02:00:26,960
right where and you know that doesn't

3298
02:00:30,470 --> 02:00:29,119
exactly work out super well for him

3299
02:00:32,629 --> 02:00:30,480
either you know i mean if

3300
02:00:33,830 --> 02:00:32,639
so right isn't that isn't that kind of

3301
02:00:35,910 --> 02:00:33,840
how you remember the story

3302
02:00:37,510 --> 02:00:35,920
yeah yeah absolutely yes i couldn't

3303
02:00:40,950 --> 02:00:37,520
remember the finale

3304
02:00:41,750 --> 02:00:40,960
and yeah yeah exactly and the the fact

3305
02:00:45,030 --> 02:00:41,760
that he

3306
02:00:46,790 --> 02:00:45,040
was brave enough to actually start and

3307
02:00:48,550 --> 02:00:46,800
talking with these people and then he

3308
02:00:51,109 --> 02:00:48,560
started hearing things

3309
02:00:53,430 --> 02:00:51,119
and hear the lightning type crackle

3310
02:00:56,709 --> 02:00:53,440
electric crackle in the

3311
02:00:59,510 --> 02:00:56,719
right good point yeah and

3312
02:01:00,629 --> 02:00:59,520
and the stories all combined like

3313
02:01:03,750 --> 02:01:00,639
separate people

3314
02:01:06,629 --> 02:01:03,760
telling the same things right yeah

3315
02:01:07,350 --> 02:01:06,639
it's really fascinating it's amazing

3316
02:01:09,030 --> 02:01:07,360
that more

3317
02:01:11,350 --> 02:01:09,040
you know scientists but of course in

3318
02:01:15,030 --> 02:01:11,360
scientism you're you're ousted right

3319
02:01:16,950 --> 02:01:15,040
it's not amazing it's not amazing see

3320
02:01:19,430 --> 02:01:16,960
that's that's my point we'll talk about

3321
02:01:20,629 --> 02:01:19,440
this but it took me the longest time to

3322
02:01:23,669 --> 02:01:20,639
realize that

3323
02:01:25,430 --> 02:01:23,679
[\h__\h] man that's part of the deal

3324
02:01:26,870 --> 02:01:25,440
that you know if you were gonna control

3325
02:01:28,790 --> 02:01:26,880
people uh

3326
02:01:31,109 --> 02:01:28,800
you know from a scientific standpoint

3327
02:01:33,750 --> 02:01:31,119
what would you want them to believe

3328
02:01:35,589 --> 02:01:33,760
that they are uh limitless beings with a

3329
02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:35,599
consciousness that survives death and

3330
02:01:39,030 --> 02:01:36,880
goes through many lives

3331
02:01:40,149 --> 02:01:39,040
and is kind of this infinite

3332
02:01:43,669 --> 02:01:40,159
consciousness

3333
02:01:45,510 --> 02:01:43,679
or b you're a biological robot in a

3334
02:01:48,550 --> 02:01:45,520
meaningless universe forget about it

3335
02:01:50,550 --> 02:01:48,560
you know black friday shopping credit

3336
02:01:52,149 --> 02:01:50,560
card that's it you know you have nothing

3337
02:01:55,430 --> 02:01:52,159
you're meaningless

3338
02:01:56,870 --> 02:01:55,440
well you want b is a lot easier to

3339
02:01:59,189 --> 02:01:56,880
manage those people

3340
02:02:00,790 --> 02:01:59,199
than manage the first group so science

3341
02:02:03,109 --> 02:02:00,800
is in the business

3342
02:02:04,310 --> 02:02:03,119
of telling you you're you know you're

3343
02:02:06,390 --> 02:02:04,320
meaningless

3344
02:02:07,589 --> 02:02:06,400
you there's nothing to consciousness

3345
02:02:09,189 --> 02:02:07,599
it's an illusion

3346
02:02:10,870 --> 02:02:09,199
i mean it's just such a laughable

3347
02:02:13,990 --> 02:02:10,880
proposition but

3348
02:02:15,510 --> 02:02:14,000
yes yeah

3349
02:02:17,270 --> 02:02:15,520
yeah they're cutting all of that off

3350
02:02:18,709 --> 02:02:17,280
like i have always recommended the

3351
02:02:22,149 --> 02:02:18,719
celestine prophecies

3352
02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:22,159
as a guidebook to how to and uh

3353
02:02:28,229 --> 02:02:25,440
evoke miracles in your life

3354
02:02:29,270 --> 02:02:28,239
and dude but don't you have to add that

3355
02:02:34,790 --> 02:02:29,280
to the list

3356
02:02:36,950 --> 02:02:34,800
in a way of i mean that blows up

3357
02:02:38,070 --> 02:02:36,960
i think and and have you heard that i

3358
02:02:41,830 --> 02:02:38,080
mean there's some stuff

3359
02:02:43,589 --> 02:02:41,840
in there as well that is a little bit

3360
02:02:45,990 --> 02:02:43,599
i don't know i don't know that's another

3361
02:02:49,109 --> 02:02:46,000
one to put in the zeitgeist

3362
02:02:50,470 --> 02:02:49,119
category and at least explore you know

3363
02:02:54,709 --> 02:02:50,480
where that takes you

3364
02:02:57,910 --> 02:02:54,719
right yeah well you see i was living it

3365
02:02:59,669 --> 02:02:57,920
and then the book came out and

3366
02:03:01,669 --> 02:02:59,679
people had always asked me you know how

3367
02:03:03,589 --> 02:03:01,679
do you survive how do you eat

3368
02:03:05,030 --> 02:03:03,599
where do you sleep and i was always like

3369
02:03:07,030 --> 02:03:05,040
i don't know

3370
02:03:08,390 --> 02:03:07,040
uh you know you just spent a year on the

3371
02:03:10,709 --> 02:03:08,400
road how

3372
02:03:12,149 --> 02:03:10,719
and i never had an answer i'm like i

3373
02:03:12,870 --> 02:03:12,159
don't know everything just kept working

3374
02:03:15,589 --> 02:03:12,880
out just

3375
02:03:17,430 --> 02:03:15,599
exactly as it should and i don't i can't

3376
02:03:19,750 --> 02:03:17,440
explain it but yet everything was

3377
02:03:22,390 --> 02:03:19,760
perfect better than i could have planned

3378
02:03:23,430 --> 02:03:22,400
and then the celestine prophecies came

3379
02:03:25,830 --> 02:03:23,440
out and i read it

3380
02:03:28,550 --> 02:03:25,840
and i said here this is what i'm doing

3381
02:03:33,189 --> 02:03:28,560
this actually explains what i'm doing

3382
02:03:35,589 --> 02:03:33,199
right now i i get that and it's like all

3383
02:03:37,669 --> 02:03:35,599
it's like the whole co-op story is

3384
02:03:41,109 --> 02:03:37,679
always the same story right

3385
02:03:45,109 --> 02:03:41,119
it's like there's this core truth

3386
02:03:47,669 --> 02:03:45,119
that is like profound and then

3387
02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:47,679
somebody says ooh let's see if we can

3388
02:03:51,350 --> 02:03:48,880
get in there and

3389
02:03:52,069 --> 02:03:51,360
maybe tweak it nudge it yeah you know do

3390
02:03:53,430 --> 02:03:52,079
do it this way

3391
02:03:55,189 --> 02:03:53,440
because the secret's the same way right

3392
02:03:57,030 --> 02:03:55,199
this is the secret yeah

3393
02:03:58,390 --> 02:03:57,040
you know is is kind of the same way and

3394
02:04:02,390 --> 02:03:58,400
then uh even

3395
02:04:05,109 --> 02:04:02,400
um oh uh carlos castaneda right

3396
02:04:05,430 --> 02:04:05,119
it's like incredible incredible i mean

3397
02:04:06,950 --> 02:04:05,440
like

3398
02:04:08,790 --> 02:04:06,960
i remember first reading that it was

3399
02:04:10,709 --> 02:04:08,800
like for so many people it was an

3400
02:04:12,870 --> 02:04:10,719
awakening you know you wanted to be you

3401
02:04:15,910 --> 02:04:12,880
want to go find don juan and all that

3402
02:04:17,510 --> 02:04:15,920
but then go dig into that you know and

3403
02:04:18,950 --> 02:04:17,520
did he really write that and where is he

3404
02:04:19,910 --> 02:04:18,960
in these new york cocktail parties and

3405
02:04:23,109 --> 02:04:19,920
stuff like that

3406
02:04:23,990 --> 02:04:23,119
the co-opting thing is always always the

3407
02:04:26,229 --> 02:04:24,000
same you know it's

3408
02:04:27,990 --> 02:04:26,239
like the example i was used is the

3409
02:04:29,669 --> 02:04:28,000
gloria steinem you know the whole gloria

3410
02:04:33,030 --> 02:04:29,679
steinem thing right

3411
02:04:35,830 --> 02:04:33,040
no cia right

3412
02:04:37,589 --> 02:04:35,840
i'm not up on that one okay i mean you

3413
02:04:38,790 --> 02:04:37,599
can hear it in her own words you know

3414
02:04:41,350 --> 02:04:38,800
she's cia

3415
02:04:42,149 --> 02:04:41,360
she was ci and she was cia before they

3416
02:04:43,990 --> 02:04:42,159
even

3417
02:04:46,390 --> 02:04:44,000
plugged her into the women's movement

3418
02:04:49,510 --> 02:04:46,400
she was cia doing these uh

3419
02:04:52,069 --> 02:04:49,520
student protest things and we even have

3420
02:04:52,709 --> 02:04:52,079
you know memos from the cia where they

3421
02:04:56,629 --> 02:04:52,719
go

3422
02:04:58,629 --> 02:04:56,639
me tell you you know

3423
02:05:00,790 --> 02:04:58,639
this is this is like out there out there

3424
02:05:04,470 --> 02:05:00,800
revealed like you can read this stuff

3425
02:05:04,790 --> 02:05:04,480
well it you know who she was outed by um

3426
02:05:05,990 --> 02:05:04,800
people

3427
02:05:08,709 --> 02:05:06,000
listen to this show get tired of me

3428
02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:08,719
saying this she was outed by a feminist

3429
02:05:12,069 --> 02:05:10,480
by a feminist group

3430
02:05:14,790 --> 02:05:12,079
that was like what the [\h__\h] are you

3431
02:05:16,149 --> 02:05:14,800
saying lady this is like faux feminism

3432
02:05:18,790 --> 02:05:16,159
you're putting out there

3433
02:05:20,470 --> 02:05:18,800
this is like a distorted message well

3434
02:05:22,390 --> 02:05:20,480
it's a distorted message because it was

3435
02:05:26,390 --> 02:05:22,400
the cia's version

3436
02:05:28,629 --> 02:05:26,400
of how they wanted that thing to to go

3437
02:05:29,990 --> 02:05:28,639
yeah yeah if things are rising to the

3438
02:05:34,229 --> 02:05:30,000
surface if you're

3439
02:05:36,229 --> 02:05:34,239
and you know the first first uh premise

3440
02:05:37,830 --> 02:05:36,239
of magic is if you want to control

3441
02:05:40,870 --> 02:05:37,840
something name it

3442
02:05:41,350 --> 02:05:40,880
and so cue anon and anything that's

3443
02:05:43,669 --> 02:05:41,360
being

3444
02:05:45,830 --> 02:05:43,679
promoted anything that is rising to the

3445
02:05:47,589 --> 02:05:45,840
surface is part of the scheme

3446
02:05:49,589 --> 02:05:47,599
you know once you start to realize that

3447
02:05:52,149 --> 02:05:49,599
and then little guys like me and the

3448
02:05:55,189 --> 02:05:52,159
freeman perspective and freeman tv

3449
02:05:56,870 --> 02:05:55,199
uh you've never heard of us you never

3450
02:05:57,510 --> 02:05:56,880
heard of me right you know and i've been

3451
02:05:59,589 --> 02:05:57,520
uh

3452
02:06:00,790 --> 02:05:59,599
a key factor in all of the things that

3453
02:06:03,109 --> 02:06:00,800
you have known

3454
02:06:04,550 --> 02:06:03,119
and you don't know that like you know

3455
02:06:07,910 --> 02:06:04,560
that these conversations

3456
02:06:11,109 --> 02:06:07,920
started with me that's a

3457
02:06:11,669 --> 02:06:11,119
that is a pretty interesting point right

3458
02:06:15,430 --> 02:06:11,679
there

3459
02:06:16,709 --> 02:06:15,440
that again it's another aspect of the

3460
02:06:18,950 --> 02:06:16,719
co-opting i'd say

3461
02:06:19,750 --> 02:06:18,960
you know so that part of the co-opting

3462
02:06:22,229 --> 02:06:19,760
is

3463
02:06:23,830 --> 02:06:22,239
get in there and tweak it in another

3464
02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:23,840
part of the co-opting which we see over

3465
02:06:27,990 --> 02:06:24,560
and over again

3466
02:06:29,990 --> 02:06:28,000
is just uh kind of confiscate it and

3467
02:06:33,030 --> 02:06:30,000
then just put it out in our own channel

3468
02:06:35,589 --> 02:06:33,040
you know just go grab it take it

3469
02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:35,599
and just put it out in our own channel

3470
02:06:40,390 --> 02:06:37,360
so we control it

3471
02:06:42,149 --> 02:06:40,400
so the one is you go and you you kind of

3472
02:06:43,510 --> 02:06:42,159
buy off freeman or you

3473
02:06:45,510 --> 02:06:43,520
catch him doing something he isn't

3474
02:06:48,790 --> 02:06:45,520
supposed to do or you

3475
02:06:52,390 --> 02:06:48,800
you know timothy leary you know who was

3476
02:06:54,709 --> 02:06:52,400
fbi under under uh under threat of

3477
02:06:55,990 --> 02:06:54,719
jail for like you know 20 years well you

3478
02:06:58,950 --> 02:06:56,000
know i mean

3479
02:06:59,510 --> 02:06:58,960
he was a free man but how free was he

3480
02:07:01,510 --> 02:06:59,520
really

3481
02:07:03,109 --> 02:07:01,520
so that's but if they don't do that to

3482
02:07:04,470 --> 02:07:03,119
you the other thing they do with you is

3483
02:07:08,709 --> 02:07:04,480
they go oh well no one's

3484
02:07:10,790 --> 02:07:08,719
really he isn't penetrating on a really

3485
02:07:12,390 --> 02:07:10,800
broad sense so let's just go grab it and

3486
02:07:15,270 --> 02:07:12,400
we'll just

3487
02:07:16,950 --> 02:07:15,280
take what we want repurpose it and don't

3488
02:07:19,589 --> 02:07:16,960
you think

3489
02:07:20,229 --> 02:07:19,599
yeah yeah definitely just yeah shadow

3490
02:07:23,589 --> 02:07:20,239
band me

3491
02:07:25,910 --> 02:07:23,599
and and promote everything else

3492
02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:25,920
and but let it let it come out a

3493
02:07:29,350 --> 02:07:26,800
different way

3494
02:07:31,030 --> 02:07:29,360
you know when you're ready you know like

3495
02:07:31,990 --> 02:07:31,040
i say they turn my science into a

3496
02:07:33,270 --> 02:07:32,000
mythology

3497
02:07:35,750 --> 02:07:33,280
you know everybody talking about

3498
02:07:37,750 --> 02:07:35,760
illuminati logos this is an illuminati

3499
02:07:40,149 --> 02:07:37,760
and it's so frustrating for me

3500
02:07:42,470 --> 02:07:40,159
to know the science and have everybody

3501
02:07:44,390 --> 02:07:42,480
misused terms and have a mythology

3502
02:07:47,270 --> 02:07:44,400
created out of science

3503
02:07:47,669 --> 02:07:47,280
uh you know my particular science anyway

3504
02:07:51,350 --> 02:07:47,679
and

3505
02:07:54,069 --> 02:07:51,360
just

3506
02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:54,079
turned it into this you're not if you go

3507
02:07:59,109 --> 02:07:55,840
hunting the illuminati

3508
02:07:59,990 --> 02:07:59,119
you're never gonna find them it doesn't

3509
02:08:02,470 --> 02:08:00,000
exist

3510
02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:02,480
but yet that term i had to literally go

3511
02:08:06,069 --> 02:08:04,639
change the titles of my films

3512
02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:06,079
because everybody was googling

3513
02:08:12,229 --> 02:08:09,119
illuminati not freemason

3514
02:08:12,709 --> 02:08:12,239
and so you know i literally had to

3515
02:08:15,189 --> 02:08:12,719
change

3516
02:08:16,950 --> 02:08:15,199
terms that i was using because i never

3517
02:08:18,870 --> 02:08:16,960
said that they were forms of magic that

3518
02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:18,880
were controlling your mind you know the

3519
02:08:23,189 --> 02:08:20,800
corporate logos and such they were signs

3520
02:08:25,109 --> 02:08:23,199
of allegiance so that freemasons can

3521
02:08:27,189 --> 02:08:25,119
recognize another free maze and if they

3522
02:08:29,589 --> 02:08:27,199
see a canted square they know that that

3523
02:08:33,350 --> 02:08:29,599
person's been through the third degree

3524
02:08:35,750 --> 02:08:33,360
uh you know shell and the the star

3525
02:08:37,109 --> 02:08:35,760
these are all masonic logos masonic

3526
02:08:40,390 --> 02:08:37,119
symbols and so as

3527
02:08:40,950 --> 02:08:40,400
i studied masonic ritual as i drove

3528
02:08:42,870 --> 02:08:40,960
around

3529
02:08:45,430 --> 02:08:42,880
all of a sudden these corporate logos

3530
02:08:48,149 --> 02:08:45,440
were speaking a new language to me

3531
02:08:49,109 --> 02:08:48,159
and i was recognizing all of the masonic

3532
02:08:52,229 --> 02:08:49,119
meanings

3533
02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:52,239
of target of shell of texaco

3534
02:08:57,270 --> 02:08:55,280
and uh you know so it became you know i

3535
02:09:00,069 --> 02:08:57,280
was like whoa wait a minute these all

3536
02:09:01,430 --> 02:09:00,079
adhere to freemasonry so when i put out

3537
02:09:03,990 --> 02:09:01,440
corporate logos i

3538
02:09:05,030 --> 02:09:04,000
i i identified them as signs of

3539
02:09:07,910 --> 02:09:05,040
allegiance

3540
02:09:09,510 --> 02:09:07,920
for freemasons and then it became this

3541
02:09:11,830 --> 02:09:09,520
illuminati logo

3542
02:09:12,790 --> 02:09:11,840
that have magic spells and are taking

3543
02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:12,800
over your soul

3544
02:09:18,310 --> 02:09:14,400
and it became this thing that just

3545
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:18,320
wasn't true

3546
02:09:22,390 --> 02:09:21,840
mind blown again i knew all that but you

3547
02:09:24,950 --> 02:09:22,400
just

3548
02:09:26,550 --> 02:09:24,960
put it with a little twist that totally

3549
02:09:30,229 --> 02:09:26,560
blows my mind again

3550
02:09:32,709 --> 02:09:30,239
freeman you're unbelievable nice

3551
02:09:34,229 --> 02:09:32,719
i don't even know that i'm doing it you

3552
02:09:35,669 --> 02:09:34,239
know that's the big difference here too

3553
02:09:36,790 --> 02:09:35,679
is i've just lived through all this

3554
02:09:39,270 --> 02:09:36,800
right this hasn't been

3555
02:09:40,790 --> 02:09:39,280
internet research this was you know when

3556
02:09:43,109 --> 02:09:40,800
i started it was books

3557
02:09:44,790 --> 02:09:43,119
i had to go to the library i have a

3558
02:09:47,910 --> 02:09:44,800
massive library i have a

3559
02:09:50,550 --> 02:09:47,920
massive library uh i have all the occult

3560
02:09:53,189 --> 02:09:50,560
books i have all the magical orders

3561
02:09:53,589 --> 02:09:53,199
practices i have dark magic white magic

3562
02:09:58,470 --> 02:09:53,599
i have

3563
02:10:01,109 --> 02:09:58,480
library

3564
02:10:02,950 --> 02:10:01,119
and i read right and i take it all in

3565
02:10:05,510 --> 02:10:02,960
and then i experience it like

3566
02:10:05,990 --> 02:10:05,520
y2k you know that was an experience not

3567
02:10:14,149 --> 02:10:06,000
a

3568
02:10:17,030 --> 02:10:14,159
just

3569
02:10:18,790 --> 02:10:17,040
going off of what i remember and you

3570
02:10:25,350 --> 02:10:18,800
know it's different because i lived

3571
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:29,830
no that's uh that's that's really

3572
02:10:36,790 --> 02:10:33,040
you i'm stumbling here because

3573
02:10:44,069 --> 02:10:40,629
in a way that's the real

3574
02:10:45,910 --> 02:10:44,079
magical spell today is that now

3575
02:10:49,109 --> 02:10:45,920
everyone's living through it

3576
02:10:52,390 --> 02:10:49,119
you know i mean when when we lived

3577
02:10:54,390 --> 02:10:52,400
through 9 11

3578
02:10:55,990 --> 02:10:54,400
we weren't totally aware that we were

3579
02:10:59,109 --> 02:10:56,000
living through it

3580
02:11:01,510 --> 02:10:59,119
i would suggest that what we're living

3581
02:11:03,270 --> 02:11:01,520
through now

3582
02:11:04,550 --> 02:11:03,280
a lot a lot of people are aware that

3583
02:11:06,310 --> 02:11:04,560
they're living through it

3584
02:11:08,629 --> 02:11:06,320
i mean you talk to a lot of people and

3585
02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:08,639
they go even older people and they go

3586
02:11:13,030 --> 02:11:10,000
i've never seen anything like

3587
02:11:15,669 --> 02:11:13,040
this in my life and that living through

3588
02:11:18,149 --> 02:11:15,679
it lived experience

3589
02:11:20,229 --> 02:11:18,159
is it is a different kind of thing than

3590
02:11:23,430 --> 02:11:20,239
to uh

3591
02:11:25,750 --> 02:11:23,440
to to wonder you know is it a conspiracy

3592
02:11:27,109 --> 02:11:25,760
is there something else going on to live

3593
02:11:29,589 --> 02:11:27,119
it as it gets

3594
02:11:30,629 --> 02:11:29,599
unveiled day by day it's different isn't

3595
02:11:32,870 --> 02:11:30,639
it yeah

3596
02:11:34,470 --> 02:11:32,880
absolutely you know you're not an

3597
02:11:37,270 --> 02:11:34,480
armchair quarterback

3598
02:11:38,310 --> 02:11:37,280
you're actually in the mix of it all and

3599
02:11:41,430 --> 02:11:38,320
you know it

3600
02:11:41,830 --> 02:11:41,440
consider my 911 like when people ask me

3601
02:11:45,270 --> 02:11:41,840
well

3602
02:11:47,669 --> 02:11:45,280
you know what where were you on 9 11.

3603
02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:47,679
i was being woken up by a horde of

3604
02:11:53,589 --> 02:11:49,679
people that were pissed off because i

3605
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:53,599
had told them it was going to happen

3606
02:11:57,669 --> 02:11:56,239
that's interesting that's how i made it

3607
02:11:59,910 --> 02:11:57,679
like you made it happen or something

3608
02:12:01,910 --> 02:11:59,920
yeah yeah i could not understand their

3609
02:12:04,470 --> 02:12:01,920
reaction like i'm i'm just waking up

3610
02:12:06,069 --> 02:12:04,480
i didn't even know it was 9 11 that day

3611
02:12:07,430 --> 02:12:06,079
like i i was at a party

3612
02:12:09,430 --> 02:12:07,440
the weekend before i've been talking

3613
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:09,440
about it for three years throughout the

3614
02:12:12,790 --> 02:12:10,480
whole clinton area

3615
02:12:13,750 --> 02:12:12,800
no no no no wait okay so we're gonna

3616
02:12:16,950 --> 02:12:13,760
stop right there

3617
02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:16,960
okay we are gonna do another one

3618
02:12:20,629 --> 02:12:18,880
all right we're gonna start because you

3619
02:12:22,069 --> 02:12:20,639
have great stories and i'm sure you've

3620
02:12:22,629 --> 02:12:22,079
told the story a million times i don't

3621
02:12:24,069 --> 02:12:22,639
care

3622
02:12:27,030 --> 02:12:24,079
i want to hear it and then i want to

3623
02:12:29,910 --> 02:12:27,040
rebroadcast it to other people

3624
02:12:31,430 --> 02:12:29,920
um but i i that that has to be the

3625
02:12:33,669 --> 02:12:31,440
opening story i love

3626
02:12:35,030 --> 02:12:33,679
that cinemagraphic right you're in your

3627
02:12:38,550 --> 02:12:35,040
bed

3628
02:12:41,350 --> 02:12:38,560
everyone knows where they are in 9 11

3629
02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:41,360
and you don't even know it's 9 11 until

3630
02:12:45,669 --> 02:12:42,480
people wake you up

3631
02:12:47,669 --> 02:12:45,679
and say you [\h__\h] tradition

3632
02:12:49,109 --> 02:12:47,679
you freaking magician you somehow caused

3633
02:12:51,830 --> 02:12:49,119
that that has to be

3634
02:12:53,109 --> 02:12:51,840
how we start our next little uh our next

3635
02:12:55,669 --> 02:12:53,119
little dialogue

3636
02:12:57,189 --> 02:12:55,679
okay all right we'll put a feather in

3637
02:12:59,189 --> 02:12:57,199
that one for sure

3638
02:13:00,870 --> 02:12:59,199
all right well you know we probably

3639
02:13:03,270 --> 02:13:00,880
should wrap this one up we've been going

3640
02:13:04,629 --> 02:13:03,280
well over two hours now

3641
02:13:08,069 --> 02:13:04,639
you're gonna have to send me the

3642
02:13:11,589 --> 02:13:08,079
recording so i can put it out on my line

3643
02:13:12,550 --> 02:13:11,599
because i never hit record absolutely no

3644
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:12,560
it's it's been

3645
02:13:17,270 --> 02:13:15,920
it's been just just been great you know

3646
02:13:18,790 --> 02:13:17,280
in your little email you said i think

3647
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:18,800
we're gonna become friends man

3648
02:13:22,069 --> 02:13:21,199
i think we are gonna become friends this

3649
02:13:26,229 --> 02:13:22,079
is

3650
02:13:28,950 --> 02:13:26,239
you're doing and it's just been

3651
02:13:30,709 --> 02:13:28,960
oh like i told told you a couple times

3652
02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:30,719
i'm learning

3653
02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:34,320
going through your whatever i i listen

3654
02:13:36,790 --> 02:13:35,920
to somebody like you and i'm learning so

3655
02:13:39,910 --> 02:13:36,800
much

3656
02:13:41,910 --> 02:13:39,920
there's kind of this excitement

3657
02:13:43,910 --> 02:13:41,920
at learning a bunch of new stuff and

3658
02:13:44,950 --> 02:13:43,920
there's also this kind of humility i

3659
02:13:48,390 --> 02:13:44,960
just feel like such a

3660
02:13:51,669 --> 02:13:48,400
dunce like how did i not know this

3661
02:13:53,030 --> 02:13:51,679
how did i not know this but i like that

3662
02:13:55,430 --> 02:13:53,040
feeling i like that

3663
02:13:56,870 --> 02:13:55,440
you know that being humbled a little bit

3664
02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:56,880
in terms of

3665
02:14:01,030 --> 02:13:58,800
what we know and what we think we know

3666
02:14:05,430 --> 02:14:01,040
so i i thank you for that

3667
02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:05,440
uh as part of this whole process oh yeah

3668
02:14:12,069 --> 02:14:08,480
and yeah we'll we're we're gonna do this

3669
02:14:17,669 --> 02:14:12,079
on your show and on my show again and uh

3670
02:14:20,550 --> 02:14:17,679
because uh i still want to interview you

3671
02:14:22,229 --> 02:14:20,560
oh yeah yeah we'll get to that but uh

3672
02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:22,239
but this has been great

3673
02:14:29,310 --> 02:14:25,520
freeman fly everybody uh you know

3674
02:14:32,790 --> 02:14:29,320
it's it's just freeman.tv

3675
02:14:33,910 --> 02:14:32,800
freemantv.com freemantv.com but you're

3676
02:14:36,709 --> 02:14:33,920
really saying

3677
02:14:37,350 --> 02:14:36,719
we need to check out the youtube channel

3678
02:14:40,069 --> 02:14:37,360
and

3679
02:14:41,109 --> 02:14:40,079
what's the best way to search for the

3680
02:14:44,229 --> 02:14:41,119
youtube channel

3681
02:14:45,109 --> 02:14:44,239
freeman fly so just freeman fly two

3682
02:14:47,510 --> 02:14:45,119
words or one

3683
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:47,520
yeah yeah because somebody stole my

3684
02:14:51,910 --> 02:14:49,760
title so somebody has another youtube

3685
02:14:55,109 --> 02:14:51,920
channel called freeman tv

3686
02:14:57,350 --> 02:14:55,119
okay uploads all of my videos which i

3687
02:14:59,030 --> 02:14:57,360
don't mind i like having a mirrored

3688
02:15:01,189 --> 02:14:59,040
you know i i have no problem with it i

3689
02:15:01,990 --> 02:15:01,199
don't know who it is i have no idea who

3690
02:15:04,470 --> 02:15:02,000
it is

3691
02:15:06,550 --> 02:15:04,480
but somebody has mirrored my my youtube

3692
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:06,560
channel and made their own and taken my

3693
02:15:09,990 --> 02:15:07,360
title

3694
02:15:10,550 --> 02:15:10,000
freeman tv so you might end up finding

3695
02:15:13,030 --> 02:15:10,560
that one

3696
02:15:15,030 --> 02:15:13,040
first but if you search freeman fly then

3697
02:15:16,950 --> 02:15:15,040
my youtube comes up first

3698
02:15:18,069 --> 02:15:16,960
so your youtube and that has the

3699
02:15:21,990 --> 02:15:18,079
playlists

3700
02:15:25,109 --> 02:15:22,000
that connect to some of these early uh

3701
02:15:27,030 --> 02:15:25,119
access cable [\h__\h] crap

3702
02:15:29,350 --> 02:15:27,040
craziness man that's like yeah you're

3703
02:15:31,990 --> 02:15:29,360
going back in time in such a cool

3704
02:15:33,669 --> 02:15:32,000
same way that we're always like you know

3705
02:15:36,950 --> 02:15:33,679
did you do this on vhs

3706
02:15:39,589 --> 02:15:36,960
and i'm like well actually yeah like

3707
02:15:42,550 --> 02:15:39,599
there wasn't this was back then you guys

3708
02:15:44,470 --> 02:15:42,560
you know yes it was vhs to vhs

3709
02:15:46,069 --> 02:15:44,480
that isn't a rumor that isn't a

3710
02:15:50,229 --> 02:15:46,079
conspiracy it really

3711
02:15:52,550 --> 02:15:50,239
existed there were these tapes yeah yeah

3712
02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:52,560
because i mean it's sold it's crazy you

3713
02:15:55,589 --> 02:15:53,599
know i i

3714
02:15:58,629 --> 02:15:55,599
like i literally had to drive around and

3715
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:58,639
take pictures of corporate logos

3716
02:16:02,310 --> 02:16:00,560
right like that's how old this is like

3717
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:02,320
there was no google pictures you

3718
02:16:07,109 --> 02:16:04,480
couldn't go just drag and drop

3719
02:16:09,109 --> 02:16:07,119
like you know i had to drive around and

3720
02:16:11,830 --> 02:16:09,119
take photographs of all the corporate

3721
02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:11,840
logos i wanted to talk about

3722
02:16:15,669 --> 02:16:14,000
it took me forever to find a texaco in

3723
02:16:17,510 --> 02:16:15,679
texas it was like

3724
02:16:19,350 --> 02:16:17,520
i couldn't believe it they didn't seem

3725
02:16:22,149 --> 02:16:19,360
to exist anymore

3726
02:16:22,550 --> 02:16:22,159
yeah but yeah shell is the classic one

3727
02:16:24,470 --> 02:16:22,560
but

3728
02:16:25,750 --> 02:16:24,480
you know i'm gonna go see like that's

3729
02:16:28,069 --> 02:16:25,760
another area

3730
02:16:29,270 --> 02:16:28,079
where i kind of knew that stuff like a

3731
02:16:32,549 --> 02:16:29,280
long time ago

3732
02:16:33,990 --> 02:16:32,559
but i just there's so much it just kind

3733
02:16:39,190 --> 02:16:34,000
of

3734
02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:39,200
and like you just said a while back and

3735
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:40,880
then i really am going to wrap this up

3736
02:16:47,429 --> 02:16:44,719
but it's like this is what i love about

3737
02:16:49,030 --> 02:16:47,439
your work and as soon as i got into it i

3738
02:16:52,469 --> 02:16:49,040
noticed this

3739
02:16:54,950 --> 02:16:52,479
and it's just so powerful is you have

3740
02:16:57,190 --> 02:16:54,960
this little way of tweaking something

3741
02:17:00,070 --> 02:16:57,200
that kind of gives it

3742
02:17:01,750 --> 02:17:00,080
a whole new meaning so when you said

3743
02:17:04,629 --> 02:17:01,760
sign of allegiance

3744
02:17:05,270 --> 02:17:04,639
it's like bam it all now clicks into

3745
02:17:07,509 --> 02:17:05,280
place

3746
02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:07,519
because it didn't make sense as a kind

3747
02:17:11,270 --> 02:17:09,679
of ritualized magic

3748
02:17:13,589 --> 02:17:11,280
you know you're under a spell kind of

3749
02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:13,599
thing sign of allegiance

3750
02:17:17,669 --> 02:17:15,679
it's a sign man we're going to put it

3751
02:17:18,870 --> 02:17:17,679
everywhere we're going to get that logo

3752
02:17:21,190 --> 02:17:18,880
we're going to listen i could have told

3753
02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:21,200
you years ago starbucks was going to be

3754
02:17:24,070 --> 02:17:22,559
popular

3755
02:17:25,910 --> 02:17:24,080
well i knew the thing about starbucks

3756
02:17:27,990 --> 02:17:25,920
but i didn't know it at sea

3757
02:17:29,910 --> 02:17:28,000
exactly i i knew the thing about

3758
02:17:33,110 --> 02:17:29,920
starbucks when it first came out but i

3759
02:17:34,070 --> 02:17:33,120
didn't understand it as a that's a key

3760
02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:34,080
phrase man

3761
02:17:38,870 --> 02:17:37,200
sign of allegiance is like

3762
02:17:40,549 --> 02:17:38,880
is i don't know yeah maybe i'm making

3763
02:17:41,990 --> 02:17:40,559
too big of a deal out of it just no no

3764
02:17:43,429 --> 02:17:42,000
that's really the key ingredient

3765
02:17:45,589 --> 02:17:43,439
that's the key ingredient and that's

3766
02:17:47,190 --> 02:17:45,599
what really frustrates me so i'm very

3767
02:17:48,150 --> 02:17:47,200
happy that you're picking up on that

3768
02:17:50,469 --> 02:17:48,160
because

3769
02:17:52,309 --> 02:17:50,479
as soon as it became this foofy magic

3770
02:17:53,190 --> 02:17:52,319
stuff i was like oh you guys lost the

3771
02:17:56,629 --> 02:17:53,200
point

3772
02:18:00,469 --> 02:17:56,639
you know right right

3773
02:18:01,190 --> 02:18:00,479
okay everybody first of i hope many of

3774
02:18:04,309 --> 02:18:01,200
these

3775
02:18:06,389 --> 02:18:04,319
freeman fly has been been our guest told

3776
02:18:09,429 --> 02:18:06,399
you how to get to his stuff

3777
02:18:12,709 --> 02:18:09,439
please do check it out you know and then

3778
02:18:13,669 --> 02:18:12,719
we're going to do this again so freeman

3779
02:18:16,309 --> 02:18:13,679
bro

3780
02:18:17,429 --> 02:18:16,319
awesome thank you so much well let me do

3781
02:18:21,349 --> 02:18:17,439
my introduction